“Talk about centralisation! The credit system, which has its focus in the so-called national banks and the big money-lenders and usurers surrounding them, constitutes enormous centralisation, and gives this class of parasites the fabulous power, not only to periodically despoil industrial capitalists, but also to interfere in actual production in a most dangerous manner— and this gang knows nothing about production and has nothing to do with it.” [1]
Ten years ago, a quote from Marx would have one deemed a socialist, and dismissed from polite debate. Today, such a quote can (and did, along with Charlie’s photo) appear in a feature in the Sydney Morning Herald—and not a few people would have been nodding their heads at how Marx got it right on bankers.F
He got it wrong on some other issues,[2] but his analysis of money and credit, and how the credit system can bring an otherwise well-functioning market economy to its knees, was spot on. His observations on the financial crisis of 1857 still ring true today:
“A high rate of interest can also indicate, as it did in 1857, that the country is undermined by the roving cavaliers of credit who can afford to pay a high interest because they pay it out of other people’s pockets (whereby, however, they help to determine the rate of interest for all), and meanwhile they live in grand style on anticipated profits.
Simultaneously, precisely this can incidentally provide a very profitable business for manufacturers and others. Returns become wholly deceptive as a result of the loan system…”[1]
One and a half centuries after Marx falsely predicted the demise of capitalism, the people most likely to bring it about are not working class revolutionaries, but the “Roving Cavaliers of Credit”, against whom Marx quite justly railed.
This month’s Debtwatch is dedicated to analysing how these Cavaliers actually “make” money and debt—something they think they understand, but in reality, they don’t. A sound model of how money and debt are created makes it obvious that we should never have fallen for the insane notion that the financial system should be self-regulating. All that did was give the Cavaliers a licence to run amok, with the consequences we are now experiencing yet again—150 years after Marx described the crisis that led him to write Das Kapital.
The conventional model: the “Money Multiplier”
Every macroeconomics textbook has an explanation of how credit money is created by the system of fractional banking that goes something like this:
- Banks are required to retain a certain percentage of any deposit as a reserve, known as the “reserve requirement”; for simplicity, let’s say this fraction is 10%.
- When customer Sue deposits say 100 newly printed government $10 notes at her bank, it is then obliged to hang on to ten of them—or $100—but it is allowed to lend out the rest.
- The bank then lends $900 to its customer Fred, who then deposits it in his bank—which is now required to hang on to 9 of the bills—or $90—and can lend out the rest. It then lends $810 to its customer Kim.
- Kim then deposits this $810 in her bank. It keeps $81 of the deposit, and lends the remaining $729 to its customer Kevin.
- And on this iterative process goes.
- Over time, a total of $10,000 in money is created—consisting of the original $1,000 injection of government money plus $9,000 in credit money—as well as $9,000 in total debts. The following table illustrates this, on the assumption that the time lag between a bank receiving a new deposit, making a loan, and the recipient of the loan depositing them in other banks is a mere one week.

This model of how banks create credit is simple, easy to understand (this version omits the fact that the public holds some of the cash in its own pockets rather than depositing it all in the banks; this detail is easily catered for and is part of the standard model taught to economists),… and completely inadequate as an explanation of the actual data on money and debt.
The Data versus the Money Multiplier Model
Two hypotheses about the nature of money can be derived from the money multiplier model:
1. The creation of credit money should happen after the creation of government money. In the model, the banking system can’t create credit until it receives new deposits from the public (that in turn originate from the government) and therefore finds itself with excess reserves that it can lend out. Since the lending, depositing and relending process takes time, there should be a substantial time lag between an injection of new government-created money and the growth of credit money.
2. The amount of money in the economy should exceed the amount of debt, with the difference representing the government’s initial creation of money. In the example above, the total of all bank deposits tapers towards $10,000, the total of loans converges to $9,000, and the difference is $1,000, which is the amount of initial government money injected into the system. Therefore the ratio of Debt to Money should be less than one, and close to (1-Reserve Ratio): in the example above, D/M=0.9, which is 1 minus the reserve ratio of 10% or 0.1.
Both these hypotheses are strongly contradicted by the data.
Testing the first hypothesis takes some sophisticated data analysis, which was done by two leading neoclassical economists in 1990.[3] If the hypothesis were true, changes in M0 should precede changes in M2. The time pattern of the data should look like the graph below: an initial injection of government “fiat” money, followed by a gradual creation of a much larger amount of credit money:

Their empirical conclusion was just the opposite: rather than fiat money being created first and credit money following with a lag, the sequence was reversed: credit money was created first, and fiat money was then created about a year later:
“There is no evidence that either the monetary base or M1 leads the cycle, although some economists still believe this monetary myth. Both the monetary base and M1 series are generally procyclical and, if anything, the monetary base lags the cycle slightly. (p. 11)
The difference in the behavior of M1 and M2 suggests that the difference of these aggregates (M2 minus M1) should be considered… The difference of M2 – M1 leads the cycle by even more than M2, with the lead being about three quarters.” (p. 12)
Thus rather than credit money being created with a lag after government money, the data shows that credit money is created first, up to a year before there are changes in base money. This contradicts the money multiplier model of how credit and debt are created: rather than fiat money being needed to “seed” the credit creation process, credit is created first and then after that, base money changes.
It doesn’t take sophisticated statistics to show that the second prediction is wrong—all you have to do is look at the ratio of private debt to money. The theoretical prediction has never been right—rather than the money stock exceeding debt, debt has always exceeded the money supply—and the degree of divergence has grown over time.(there are attenuating factors that might affect the prediction—the public hoarding cash should make the ratio less than shown here, while non-banks would make it larger—but the gap between prediction and reality is just too large for the theory to be taken seriously).

Academic economics responded to these empirical challenges to its accepted theory in the time-honoured way: it ignored them.
Well, the so-called “mainstream” did—the school of thought known as “Neoclassical economics”. A rival school of thought, known as Post Keynesian economics, took these problems seriously, and developed a different theory of how money is created that is more consistent with the data.
This first major paper on this approach, “The Endogenous Money Stock” by the non-orthodox economist Basil Moore, was published almost thirty years ago.[4] Basil’s essential point was quite simple. The standard money multiplier model’s assumption that banks wait passively for deposits before starting to lend is false. Rather than bankers sitting back passively, waiting for depositors to give them excess reserves that they can then on-lend,
“In the real world, banks extend credit, creating deposits in the process, and look for reserves later”.[5]
Thus loans come first—simultaneously creating deposits—and at a later stage the reserves are found. The main mechanism behind this are the “lines of credit” that major corporations have arranged with banks that enable them to expand their loans from whatever they are now up to a specified limit.
If a firm accesses its line of credit to, for example, buy a new piece of machinery, then its debt to the bank rises by the price of the machine, and the deposit account of the machine’s manufacturer rises by the same amount. If the bank that issued the line of credit was already at its own limit in terms of its reserve requirements, then it will borrow that amount, either from the Federal Reserve or from other sources.
If the entire banking system is at its reserve requirement limit, then the Federal Reserve has three choices:
- refuse to issue new reserves and cause a credit crunch;
- create new reserves; or
- relax the reserve ratio.
Since the main role of the Federal Reserve is to try to ensure the smooth functioning of the credit system, option one is out—so it either adds Base Money to the system, or relaxes the reserve requirements, or both.
Thus causation in money creation runs in the opposite direction to that of the money multiplier model: the credit money dog wags the fiat money tail. Both the actual level of money in the system, and the component of it that is created by the government, are controlled by the commercial system itself, and not by the Federal Reserve.
Central Banks around the world learnt this lesson the hard way in the 1970s and 1980s when they attempted to control the money supply, following neoclassical economist Milton Friedman’s theory of “monetarism” that blamed inflation on increases in the money supply. Friedman argued that Central Banks should keep the reserve requirement constant, and increase Base Money at about 5% per annum; this would, he asserted cause inflation to fall as people’s expectations adjusted, with only a minor (if any) impact on real economic activity.
Though inflation was ultimately suppressed by a severe recession, the monetarist experiment overall was an abject failure. Central Banks would set targets for the growth in the money supply and miss them completely—the money supply would grow two to three times faster than the targets they set.
Ultimately, Central Banks abandoned monetary targetting, and moved on to the modern approach of targetting the overnight interest rate as a way to control inflation.[6] Several Central Banks—including Australia’s RBA—completely abandoned the setting of reserve requirements. Others—such as America’s Federal Reserve—maintained them, but had such loopholes in them that they became basically irrelevant. Thus the US Federal Reserve sets a Required Reserve Ratio of 10%, but applies this only to deposits by individuals; banks have no reserve requirement at all for deposits by companies.[7]
However, neoclassical economic theory never caught up with either the data, or the actual practices of Central Banks—and Ben Bernanke, a leading neoclassical theoretician, and unabashed fan of Milton Friedman, is now in control of the Federal Reserve. He is therefore trying to resolve the financial crisis and prevent deflation in a neoclassical manner: by increasing the Base Money supply.
Give Bernanke credit for trying here: the rate at which he is increasing Base Money is unprecedented. Base Money doubled between 1994 and 2008; Bernanke has doubled it again in just the last 4 months.

If the money multiplier model of money creation were correct, then ultimately this would lead to a dramatic growth in the money supply as an additional US$7 trillion of credit money was gradually created.

If neoclassical theory was correct, this increase in the money supply would cause a bout of inflation, which would end bring the current deflationary period to a halt, and we could all go back to “business as usual”. That is clearly what Bernanke is banking on:
“The conclusion that deflation is always reversible under a fiat money system follows from basic economic reasoning. A little parable may prove useful: Today an ounce of gold sells for $300, more or less. Now suppose that a modern alchemist solves his subject’s oldest problem by finding a way to produce unlimited amounts of new gold at essentially no cost. Moreover, his invention is widely publicized and scientifically verified, and he announces his intention to begin massive production of gold within days.
What would happen to the price of gold? Presumably, the potentially unlimited supply of cheap gold would cause the market price of gold to plummet. Indeed, if the market for gold is to any degree efficient, the price of gold would collapse immediately after the announcement of the invention, before the alchemist had produced and marketed a single ounce of yellow metal.
Like gold, U.S. dollars have value only to the extent that they are strictly limited in supply. But the U.S. government has a technology, called a printing press (or, today, its electronic equivalent), that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes at essentially no cost.
By increasing the number of U.S. dollars in circulation, or even by credibly threatening to do so, the U.S. government can also reduce the value of a dollar in terms of goods and services, which is equivalent to raising the prices in dollars of those goods and services. We conclude that, under a paper-money system, a determined government can always generate higher spending and hence positive inflation…
If we do fall into deflation, however, we can take comfort that the logic of the printing press example must assert itself, and sufficient injections of money will ultimately always reverse a deflation.” [8]
However, from the point of view of the empirical record, and the rival theory of endogenous money, this will fail on at least four fronts:
1. Banks won’t create more credit money as a result of the injections of Base Money. Instead, inactive reserves will rise;
2. Creating more credit money requires a matching increase in debt—even if the money multiplier model were correct, what would the odds be of the private sector taking on an additional US$7 trillion in debt in addition to the current US$42 trillion it already owes?;
3. Deflation will continue because the motive force behind it will still be there—distress selling by retailers and wholesalers who are desperately trying to avoid going bankrupt; and
4. The macroeconomic process of deleveraging will reduce real demand no matter what is done, as Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer recently noted: “We’re certainly in the midst of a once-in-a-lifetime set of economic conditions. The perspective I would bring is not one of recession. Rather, the economy is resetting to lower level of business and consumer spending based largely on the reduced leverage in economy”.[9]
The only way that Bernanke’s “printing press example” would work to cause inflation in our current debt-laden would be if simply Zimbabwean levels of money were printed—so that fiat money could substantially repay outstanding debt and effectively supplant credit-based money.
Measured on this scale, Bernanke’s increase in Base Money goes from being heroic to trivial. Not only does the scale of credit-created money greatly exceed government-created money, but debt in turn greatly exceeds even the broadest measure of the money stock—the M3 series that the Fed some years ago decided to discontinue.

Bernanke’s expansion of M0 in the last four months of 2008 has merely reduced the debt to M0 ratio from 47:1 to 36:1 (the debt data is quarterly whole money stock data is monthly, so the fall in the ratio is more than shown here given the lag in reporting of debt).

To make a serious dent in debt levels, and thus enable the increase in base money to affect the aggregate money stock and hence cause inflation, Bernanke would need to not merely double M0, but to increase it by a factor of, say, 25 from pre-intervention levels. That US$20 trillion truckload of greenbacks might enable Americans to repay, say, one quarter of outstanding debt with one half—thus reducing the debt to GDP ratio about 200% (roughly what it was during the DotCom bubble and, coincidentally, 1931)—and get back to some serious inflationary spending with the other (of course, in the context of a seriously depreciating currency). But with anything less than that, his attempts to reflate the American economy will sink in the ocean of debt created by America’s modern-day “Roving Cavaliers of Credit”.

How to be a “Cavalier of Credit”
Note Bernanke’s assumption (highlighted above) in his argument that printing money would always ultimately cause inflation: “under a fiat money system“. The point made by endogenous money theorists is that we don’t live in a fiat-money system, but in a credit-money system which has had a relatively small and subservient fiat money system tacked onto it.
We are therefore not in a “fractional reserve banking system”, but in a credit-money one, where the dynamics of money and debt are vastly different to those assumed by Bernanke and neoclassical economics in general.[10]
Calling our current financial system a “fiat money” or “fractional reserve banking system” is akin to the blind man who classified an elephant as a snake, because he felt its trunk. We live in a credit money system with a fiat money subsystem that has some independence, but certainly doesn’t rule the monetary roost—far from it.
The best place to start to analyse the monetary system is therefore to consider a model of a pure credit economy—a toy economy in which there is no government sector and no Central Bank whatsoever—and see how that model behaves.
The first issue in such a system is how does one become a bank?—or a “cavalier of credit” in Marx’s wonderfully evocative phrase? The answer was provided by the Italian non-orthodox economist Augusto Graziani: a bank is a third party to all transactions, whose account-keeping between buyer and seller is regarded as finally settling all claims between them.
Huh? What does that mean? To explain it, I’ll compare it with the manner in which we’ve been misled to thinking about the market economy by neoclassical economics.
It has deluded us into thinking of a market economy as being fundamentally a system of barter. Every transaction is seen as being two sided, and involving two commodities: Farmer Maria wants to sell pigs and buy copper pipe; Plumber Joe wants to sell copper pipe and buy pigs.

Money simply eliminates the problem that it’s very hard for Plumber Joe to find Farmer Maria. Instead, they each sell their commodity for money, and then exchange that money for the commodity they really want. The picture appears more complicated—there are two markets introduced as well, with Farmer Maria selling pigs to the pig market in return for money, Plumber Joe doing the same thing in the copper market, and then armed with money from their sales, they go across to the other market and buy what they want. But it is still a lot easier than a plumber going out to try to find a pig farmer who wants copper pipes.
In this model of the economy, money is useful in that it replaces a very difficult search process with a system of markets. But fundamentally the system is no different to the barter model above: money is just a convenient “numeraire”, and anything at all could be used—even copper pipe or pigs—so long as all markets agreed to accept it. Gold tends to be the numeraire of choice because it doesn’t degrade, and paper money merely replaces gold as a more convenient form of numeraire.

Importantly, in this model, money is an asset to its holder, but a liability to no-one. There is money, but no debt. The fractional banking model that is tacked onto this vision of bartering adds yet another market where depositors (savers) supply money at a price (the rate of interest), and lenders buy money for that price, and the interaction between supply and demand sets the price. Debt now exists, but in the model world total debt is less than the amount of money.
If this market produces too much money (which it can do in a fractional banking system because the government determines the supply of base money and the reserve requirement) then there can be inflation of the money prices of commodities. Equally if the money market suddenly contracts, then there can be deflation. It’s fairly easy to situate Bernanke’s dramatic increase in Base Money within this view of the world.
If only it were the world in which we live. Instead, we live in a credit economy, in which intrinsically useless pieces of paper—or even simple transfers of electronic records of numbers—are happily accepted in return for real, hard commodities. This in itself is not incompatible with a fractional banking model, but the empirical data tells us that credit money is created independently of fiat money: credit money rules the roost. So our fundamental understanding of a monetary economy should proceed from a model in which credit is intrinsic, and government money is tacked on later—and not the other way round.
Our starting point for analysing the economy should therefore be a “pure credit” economy, in which there are privately issued bank notes, but no government sector and no fiat money. Yet this has to be an economy in which intrinsically useless items are accepted as payment for intrinsically useful ones—you can’t eat a bank note, but you can eat a pig.
So how can that be done without corrupting the entire system. Someone has to have the right to produce the bank notes; how can this system be the basis of exchange, without the person who has that right abusing it?
Graziani (and others in the “Circuitist” tradition) reasoned that this would only be possible if the producer of bank notes—or the keeper of the electronic records of money—could not simply print them whenever he/she wanted a commodity, and go and buy that commodity with them. But at the same time, people involved in ordinary commerce had to accept the transfer of these intrinsically useless things in return for commodities.
“Therefore for a system of credit money to work, three conditions had to be fulfilled:
In order for money to exist, three basic conditions must be met:
a) money has to be a token currency (otherwise it would give rise to barter and not to monetary exchanges);
b) money has to be accepted as a means of final settlement of the transaction (otherwise it would be credit and not money);
c) money must not grant privileges of seignorage to any agent making a payment.” [11]
In Graziani’s words, “The only way to satisfy those three conditions is …:
“to have payments made by means of promises of a third agent, the typical third agent being nowadays. When an agent makes a payment by means of a cheque, he satisfies his partner by the promise of the bank to pay the amount due.
Once the payment is made, no debt and credit relationships are left between the two agents. But one of them is now a creditor of the bank, while the second is a debtor of the same bank. This insures that, in spite of making final payments by means of paper money, agents are not granted any kind of privilege.
For this to be true, any monetary payment must therefore be a triangular transaction, involving at least three agents, the payer, the payee, and the bank.” ( p. 3).
Thus in a credit economy, all transactions are involve one commodity, and three parties: a seller, a buyer, and a bank whose transfer of money from the buyer’s account to the seller’s is accepted by them as finalising the sale of the commodity. So the actual pattern in any transaction in a credit money economy is as shown below:

This makes banks and money an essential feature of a credit economy, not something that can be initially ignored and incorporated later, as neoclassical economics has attempted to do (unsuccessfully; one of the hardest things for a neoclassical mathematical modeller is to explain why money exists, apart from the search advantages noted above. Generally therefore their models omit money—and debt—completely).
It also defines what a bank is: it is a third party whose record-keeping is trusted by all parties as recording the transfers of credit money that effect sales of commodities. The bank makes a legitimate living by lending money to other agents—thus simultaneously creating loans and deposits—and charging a higher rate of interest on loans than on deposits.
Thus in a fundamental way, a bank is a bank because it is trusted. Of course, as we know from our current bitter experience, banks can damage that trust; but it remains the wellspring from which their existence arises.
This model helped distinguish the realistic model of endogenous money from the unrealistic neoclassical vision of a barter economy. It also makes it possible to explain what a credit crunch is, and why it has such a devastating impact upon economic activity.
First, the basics: how does a pure credit economy work, and how is money created in one? (The rest of this post necessarily gets technical and is there for those who want detailed background. It reports new research into the dynamics of a credit economy. There’s nothing here anywhere near as poetic as Marx’s “Cavaliers of Credit”, but I hope it explains how a credit economy works, and how it can go badly wrong in a “credit crunch”)
How the Cavaliers “Make Money”
Several economists—notably Wicksell and Keynes—envisaged a “pure credit economy”. Keynes imagined a world in which “investment is proceeding at a steady rate”, in which case:
“the finance (or the commitments to finance) required can be supplied from a revolving fund of a more or less constant amount, one entrepreneur having his finance replenished for the purpose of a projected investment as another exhausts his on paying for his completed investment.” [12]
This is the starting point to understanding a pure credit economy—and therefore to understanding our current economy and why it’s in a bind. Consider an economy with three sectors: firms that produce goods, banks that charge and pay interest, and households that supply workers. Firms are the only entities that borrow, and the banking sector gave loans at some stage in the past to start production. Firms hired workers with this money (and bought inputs from each other), enabling production, and ultimately the economy settled down to a constant turnover of money and goods (as yet there is no technological change, population growth, or wage bargaining).
There are four types of accounts: Firms’ Loans, Firms’ Deposits, Banks’ Deposits, and Households Deposits. These financial flows are described by the following table. I’m eschewing mathematical symbols and just using letters here to avoid the “MEGO” effect (“My Eyes Glaze Over”)—if you want to check out the equations, see this paper:
1. Interest accrues on the outstanding loans.
2. Firms pay interest on the loans. This is how the banks make money, and it involves a transfer of money from the firms deposit accounts to the banks. The banks then have to acknowledge this payment of interest by recording it against the outstanding debt firms owe them.
3. Banks pay interest to firms on the balances in their deposit accounts. This involves a transfer from Bank Deposit accounts to Firms; this is a cost of business to banks, but they make money this way because (a) the rate of interest on loans is higher than that on deposits and (b) as is shown later, the volume of loans outstanding exceeds the deposits that banks have to pay interest on;
4. Firms pay wages to workers; this is a transfer from the firms deposits to the households.
5. Banks pay interest to households on the balances in their deposit accounts.
6. Banks and households pay money to firms in order to purchase some of the output from factories for consumption and intermediate goods.

This financial activity allows production to take place:
1. Workers are hired and paid a wage;
2. They produce output in factories at a constant level of productivity;
3. The output is then sold to other firms, banks and households;
4. The price level is set so that in equilibrium the flow of demand equals the flow of output
The graphs below show the outcome of a simulation of this system, which show that a pure credit economy can work: firms can borrow money, make a profit and pay it back, and a single “revolving fund of finance”, as Keynes put it, can maintain a set level of economic activity. [13]
These stable accounts support a flow of economic activity in time, giving firms, households and banks steady incomes:


Output and employment also tick over at a constant level:

That’s the absolutely basic picture; to get closer to our current reality, a lot more needs to be added. The next model includes, in addition to the basic system shown above:
1. Repayment of debt, which involves a transfer from the Firms’ deposit account to an account that wasn’t shown in the previous model that records Banks unlent reserves; this transfer of money has to be acknowledged by the banks by a matching reduction in the recorded level of debt;
2. Relending from unlent reserves. This involves a transfer of money, against which an equivalent increase in debt is recorded;
3. The extension of new loans to the firm sector by the banks. The firms sector’s deposits are increased, and simultaneously the recorded level of debt is increased by the same amount.
4. Investment of part of bank profits by a transfer from the banking sector’s deposit accounts to the unlent reserves.
5. Variable wages, growing labour productivity and a growing population.
The financial table for this system is:

As with the previous model, this toy economy “works”—it is possible for firms to borrow money, make a profit, and repay their debt.
With the additional elements of debt repayment and the creation of new money, this model also lets us see what happens to bank income when these parameters change.

Though in some ways the answers are obvious, it lets us see why banks are truly cavalier with credit. The conclusions are that bank income is bigger:
- If the rate of money creation is higher (this is by far the most important factor);
- If the rate of circulation of unlent reserves is higher; and
- If the rate of debt repayment is lower—which is why, in “normal” financial circumstances, banks are quite happy not to have debt repaid.
In some ways these conclusions are unremarkable: banks make money by extending debt, and the more they create, the more they are likely to earn. But this is a revolutionary conclusion when compared to standard thinking about banks and debt, because the money multiplier model implies that, whatever banks might want to do, they are constrained from so doing by a money creation process that they do not control.
However, in the real world, they do control the creation of credit. Given their proclivity to lend as much as is possible, the only real constraint on bank lending is the public’s willingness to go into debt. In the model economy shown here, that willingness directly relates to the perceived possibilities for profitable investment—and since these are limited, so also is the uptake of debt.
But in the real world—and in my models of Minsky’s Financial Instability Hypothesis—there is an additional reason why the public will take on debt: the perception of possibilities for private gain from leveraged speculation on asset prices.
That clearly is what has happened in the world’s recent economic history, as it happened previously in the runup to the Great Depression and numerous financial crises beforehand. In its aftermath, we are now experiencing a “credit crunch”—a sudden reversal with the cavaliers going from being willing to lend to virtually anyone with a pulse, to refusing credit even to those with solid financial histories.
I introduce a “credit crunch” into this model by changing those same key key financial parameters at the 30 year mark, but decreasing them rather than increasing them. Firms go from having a 20 year horizon for debt repayment to a 6.4 year horizon, banks go from increasing the money supply at 10% per annum to 3.2% per annum, while the rate of circulation of unlent reserves drops by 68%.
There is much more to our current crisis than this—in particular, this model omits “Ponzi lending” that finances gambling on asset prices rather than productive investment, and the resulting accumulation of debt compared to GDP—but this level of change in financial parameters alone is sufficient to cause a simulated crisis equivalent to the Great Depression. Its behaviour reproduces much of what we’re witnessing now: there is a sudden blowout in unlent reserves, and a decline in the nominal level of debt and in the amount of money circulating in the economy.

This is the real world phenomenon that Bernanke is now railing against with his increases in Base Money, and already the widespread lament amongst policy makers is that banks are not lending out this additional money, but simply building up their reserves.
Tough: in a credit economy, that’s what banks do after a financial crisis—it’s what they did during the Great Depression. This credit-economy phenomenon is the real reason that the money supply dropped during the Depression: it wasn’t due to “bad Federal Reserve policy” as Bernanke himself has opined, but due to the fact that we live in a credit money world, and not the fiat money figment of neoclassical imagination.
The impact of the simulated credit crunch on my toy economy’s real variables is similar to that of the Great Depression: real output slumps severely, as does employment.

The nominal value of output also falls, because prices also fall along with real output.

This fall in prices is driven by a switch from a regime of growing demand to one of shrinking demand. Rather than there being a continuous slight imbalance in demand’s favour, the imbalance shifts in favour of supply—and prices continue falling even though output eventually starts to rise.

The unemployment rate explodes rapidly from full employment to 25 percent of the workforce being out of a job—and then begins a slow recovery.

Finally, wages behave in a perverse fashion, just as Keynes argued during the Great Depression: nominal wages fall, but real wages rise because the fall in prices outruns the fall in wages.

This combination of falling prices and falling output means that despite the fall in nominal debts, the ratio of debt to nominal output actually rises—again, as happened for the first few years of the Great Depression.

Though this model is still simple compared to the economy in which we live, it’s a lot closer to our actual economy than the models developed by conventional “neoclassical” economists, which ignore money and debt, and presume that the economy will always converge to a “NAIRU”[14] equilibrium after any shock.
It also shows the importance of the nominal money stock, something that neoclassical economists completely ignore. To quote Milton Friedman on this point:
“It is a commonplace of monetary theory that nothing is so unimportant as the quantity of money expressed in terms of the nominal monetary unit—dollars, or pounds, or pesos… Let the number of dollars in existence be multiplied by 100; that, too, will have no other essential effect, provided that all other nominal magnitudes (prices of goods and services, and quantities of other assets and liabilities that are expressed in nominal terms) are also multiplied by 100.” [15]
The madness in Friedman’s argument is the assumption that increasing the money supply by a factor of 100 will also cause “all other nominal magnitudes” including commodity prices and debts to be multiplied by the same factor.
Whatever might be the impact on prices of increasing the money supply by a factor of 100, the nominal value of debt would remain constant: debt contracts don’t give banks the right to increase your outstanding level of debt just because prices have changed. Movements in the nominal prices of goods and services aren’t perfectly mirrored by changes in the level of nominal debts, and this is why nominal magnitudes can’t be ignored.
In this model I have developed, money and its rate of circulation matter because they determine the level of nominal and real demand. It is a “New Monetarism” model, in which money is crucial.
Ironically, Milton Friedman argued that money was crucial in his interpretation of the Great Depression—that the failure of the Federal Reserve to sufficiently increase the money supply allowed deflation to occur. But he a trivial “helicopter” model of money creation that saw all money as originating from the operations of the Federal Reserve:
“Let us suppose now that one day a helicopter flies over this community and drops an additional $1,000 in bills from the sky, which is, of course, hastily collected by members of the community. Let us suppose further that everyone is convinced that this is a unique event which will never be repeated… [16]
When the helicopter starts dropping money in a steady stream— or, more generally, when the quantity of money starts unexpectedly to rise more rapidly— it takes time for people to catch on to what is happening. Initially, they let actual balances exceed long— run desired balances…” (p. 13)
and a trivial model of the real economy that argued that it always tended back to equilibrium:
“Let us start with a stationary society in which … (5) The society, though stationary, is not static. Aggregates are constant, but individuals are subject to uncertainty and change. Even the aggregates may change in a stochastic way, provided the mean values do not… Let us suppose that these conditions have been in existence long enough for the society to have reached a state of equilibrium…” (pp. 2-3)
One natural question to ask about this final situation is, “ What raises the price level, if at all points markets are cleared and real magnitudes are stable?” The answer is, “ Because everyone confidently anticipates that prices will rise.” (p. 10)
Using this simplistic analysis, Milton Friedman claimed that inflation was caused by “too many helicopters” and deflation by “too few”, and that the deflation that amplified the downturn in the 1930s could have been prevented if only the Fed had sent more helicopters into the fray:
“different and feasible actions by the monetary authorities could have prevented the decline in the money stock—indeed, produced almost any desired increase in the money stock. The same actions would also have eased the banking difficulties appreciably. Prevention or moderation of the decline in the stock of money, let alone the substitution of monetary expansion, would have reduced the contraction’s severity and almost as certainly its duration.” [17]
With a sensible model of how money is endogenously created by the financial system, it is possible to concur that a decline in money contributed to the severity of the Great Depression, but not to blame that on the Federal Reserve not properly exercising its effectively impotent powers of fiat money creation. Instead, the decline was due to the normal operations of a credit money system during a financial crisis that its own reckless lending has caused—the Cavaliers are cowards who rush into a battle they are winning, and retreat at haste in defeat.
However, with his belief in Friedman’s analysis, Bernanke did blame his 1930 predecessors for causing the Great Depression. In his paean to Milton Friedman on the occasion of his 90th birthday, Bernanke made the following remark:
“Let me end my talk by abusing slightly my status as an official representative of the Federal Reserve. I would like to say to Milton and Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You’re right, we did it. We’re very sorry. But thanks to you, we won’t do it again.” [18]
In fact, thanks to Milton Friedman and neoclassical economics in general, the Fed ignored the run up of debt that has caused this crisis, and every rescue engineered by the Fed simply increased the height of the precipice from which the eventual fall into Depression would occur.
Having failed to understand the mechanism of money creation in a credit money world, and failed to understand how that mechanism goes into reverse during a financial crisis, neoclassical economics may end up doing what by accident what Marx failed to achieve by deliberate action, and bring capitalism to its knees.
Neoclassical economics—and especially that derived from Milton Friedman’s pen—is mad, bad, and dangerous to know.

Debtwatch Statistics February 2009
My discussion of the most recent monthly data is abbreviated given the length of this Report, but it now appears that the debt bubble has started to burst. Private debt fell by $A$5 billion in the last month, the first fall since 2003, and the steepest monthly fall on record.

As a result, Australia’s Debt to GDP ratio has started to fall.

However, it might rise once more if deflation takes hold. This was the Depression experience when the debt to GDP ratio rose even as nominal debt levels fell. Leaving that possibility aside for the moment, it appears that Australia’s peak private debt to GDP ratio occurred in March 2008, with a ratio of 177% of GDP including business securities (or 165% excluding business securities).


[1] Marx, Capital Volume III, Chapter 33, The medium of circulation in the credit system, pp. 544-45 [Progress Press]. http://www.marx.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch33.htm. Emphases added.
[2] Notably the “labour theory of value”, which argues erroneously that all profit comes from labour, the notion that the rate of profit has a tendency to fall, and the alleged inevitability of the demise of capitalism; see my papers on these issues on the Research page of my blog under Marx.
[3] Kydland & Prescott, Business Cycles: Real Facts and a Monetary Myth, Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis Quarterly Review, Spring 1990.
[4] “The Endogenous Money Stock”, Journal of Post Keynesian Economics, 1979, Volume 2, pp. 49-70.
[5] Basil Moore 1983, “Unpacking the post Keynesian black box: bank lending and the money supply”, Journal of Post Keynesian Economics 1983, Vol. 4 pp. 537-556; here Moore was quoting a Federal Reserve economist from a 1969 conference in which the endogeneity of the money supply was being debated.
[6] This policy “worked” in the sense that Central Banks were successful in controlling short run interest rates, and appeared to work in controlling inflation; but it is now becoming obvious that its success on the latter front was a coincidence—the era of low inflation coincided with the dramatic impact of China and offshore manufacturing in general on consumer and producer prices—and it led to Central Banks completely ignoring the debt bubble that has caused the global financial crisis. As a result, interest rate targetting is also going the way of the Dodo now.
[7] see Table 10 in Yueh-Yun C. OBrien, 2007. “Reserve Requirement Systems in OECD Countries” , Finance and Economics Discussion Series, Divisions of Research & Statistics and Monetary A¤airs, Federal Reserve Board, 2007-54, Washington, D.C;. The US rule implies that the main reason for the “reserve requirement” these days is to meet household demand for cash.
[8] Bernanke 2002: Remarks by Governor Ben S. Bernanke Before the National Economists Club, Washington, D.C., November 21, 2002. Deflation: Making Sure “It” Doesn’t Happen Here. Emphasis added.
[9] “Microsoft resorts to first layoffs, cutting 5,000“, Yahoo Finance January 22nd 2009.
[10] And, for that matter, by Austrian economics, whose analysis of money is surprisingly simplistic. Though Austrians advocate a private money system in which banks would issue their own currency, they assume that under the current money system, all money is generated by fractional reserve lending on top of fiat money creation. This is strange, since if they advocate a private money system, they need a model of how banks could create money without fractional reserve lending. But they don’t have one.
[11] Graziani A. (1989). The Theory of the Monetary Circuit, Thames Papers in Political Economy, Sprin, pp.:1-26. Reprinted in M. Musella and C. Panico (eds) (1995). The Money Supply in the Economic Process, Edward Elgar, Aldershot.
[12] Keynes 1937, “ Alternative theories of the rate of interest” , Economic Journal, Vol. 47, pp. 241-252: p. 247
[13] The parameters were an initial loan of $100, loan rate of interest of 5%, deposit rate of 1%, 3 month lag between financing production and receiving the sales proceeds, 1/3rd of the surplus from production going to firms as profits and the remainder to workers as wages, a one year lag in price adjustments, a money wage of $1, worker productivity of 1.1 units of physical output per worker per year, and a one year lag in spending by bankers and a two week lag by workers.
[14] “Non-Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment”, another one of Milton’s mythical constants.
[15] Milton Friedman 1969, “The Optimal Quantity of Money”, in The Optimal Quantity of Money and Other Essays, Macmillan, Chicago, p. 1.
[16] Milton Friedman 1969, pp. 5-6
[17] Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz 1963, A Monetary History of the United States 1867-1960, Princeton University Press, Princeton, p. 301.
[18] Remarks by Governor Ben S. Bernanke At the Conference to Honor Milton Friedman, University of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois November 8, 2002 On Milton Friedman’s Ninetieth Birthday.






January 31st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Hi Steve,
In today SMH Kevin Rudd had taken a jab at the neos stating they have wrecked the economic system for the last 30 years and we need an alternatively. Putin, seems to have come out on similar lines. So why is Kevin Rudd continuing to do rubbish? Hand out 10billion and now throwing money at the commercial property maket? Why cant he take a loan from the IMF and go into deficit for massive infrastructure projects that we clearly need? Just like the Sydeny Harbour bridge. Steve what is your views about free market system, outsourcing etc. Do you agree with it? I would like your perspective of it on the local economy.
My other question was regarding Chris Joy..have you read his latest blogs about House prices and japans lost decade on the spectator? What do you think about his data, hedonic measures and analysis?. He seems to be to the only person on the spectator that has missed the bus and he quotes you as being quite inaccurate with your take on things.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Hi Steve. This is a great article but I’ll need some time to digest it. No doubt you are aware that the PM has published his criticism of the neo-liberal agenda in ‘The Monthly’. I notice he makes mention that the ‘Emperor has no Clothes’….Perhaps he has been reading your work?
January 31st, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Thanks very much Steve. You have articulated yourself very well , so that even inarticulate economics plebs like me can comprehend.
But, the implications are sobering. In speaking about the US , clearly, printing new money at current rates (in the face of this implosion of debt) will not displace the money being destroyed by the rate at which asset values are collapsing. Considering the damage thus far inflicted and known to come , US Banks therefore are already insolvent by that metric alone. So, rather than the US Banking system operating on an accountable reserves system and openly valued assets, deposits etc , it is now operating by a herd consensus…… to keep up the faith? By virtue of what…. the US denominated scrip being so widely held – Treasuries, bonds, currency etc? The “Reserve” status?
This is the glue that keeps much of the worlds banking systems functioning everyday?
And should that faith crumble? If faith erodes and decays or collapses in the ability of particularly the US and her Banks to redeem themselves from this almighty debt burden, by what means will all the billions of global transactions you outline above take place – absent the banks that facilitate the process? The only way I see to secure the global financial system is for the critical failed parts to be nationalized. Period.
That is if we ever expect commerce to recover. It wouldn’t be the same , it won’t be even pretty and it won’t operate the same way, but it will be there. It seems to me that we are experimenting with untested and unknown “neo classical” solutions, while global financial collapse is a clear and present danger.
Steve, am I on the right train of thought here? If so, I’m confused then by your opinion of another (and rather long served) store of wealth- gold.
January 31st, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Hi Steve,
It appears talk of debt deflation is getting more and more main stream coverage. The latest I’ve come across is an interview of a Dr Lacy Hunt at the “Buisiness Spectator” http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Lacy-Hunt-$pd20090129-NR997?OpenDocument.o
In this interview he states that debt markets could take 15- 20 years to normalise.
Do you think you views and data are getting any more attention by the likes of the RBA, Treasury or Gov…etc?
What are your thoughts on the best action that the Australian Government should take to minimise the impact of this debt deflation going forward? If e.g. debt forgiveness -what about the consequence for those who didn’t leverage excessively? Won’t this cause a sort of “moral hazard”?
Have you thought of posting ideas for “remedial action”, perhaps separating it into different sections eg for government action and households.
Cheers and thanks for a great blog.
Costa
January 31st, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Hi Steve
Not being very savvy in the economics area I’m really pleased that I understand your latest DebtWatch. (I must admit to having a little lie down in the middle of it – but that was only to digest what I’d already read, and not any MEGO effect!) You’ve explained everything so clearly.
As Joshua and Clive point out it seems that Rudd is on the same track. Like Joshua I’m perplexed by the Government continuing down the same path as the US when it seems a pointless exercise? Is it because we, the public expect them to look like they’re doing SOMETHING? Or as Al49er in a previous blog pointed out that perhaps when they say they are acting decisively the emphasis is really on the word ACTING?
January 31st, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Hi Steve,
Very nice piece, Steve, one of your clearest and best. Now I understand where you are coming from.
Do you think it was always thus, or was Marx simply being prescient in noticing that the usurers (aka The Roving Cavaliers of Credit) were beginning their takeover of capitalist society only at that time? Certainly the founding fathers in America appeared to be very aware of this danger.
January 31st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
hi icon, re china and dollar,
take your point,
but, what happened between 1913 and 1949, not too many slow news days.
1913 england still a net creditor and an empire, the US on the way to taking over from england as the worlds largest creditor and stitching us up with dollar hegemony at bretton woods. a transition of power from great britain to america.
lets see we had 2 world wars, a couple of revolutions, a depression, a blood bath in india, a few civil wars to name just a few, between 1913 and 1949.
and this was a transition between 2 powers that had many similarities and traditions. the US inherited alot of its traditions from great britain.
time is cyclical, history is cyclical, what goes around comes around. perhaps youd like to point out a power transition thats been peacefull.
this transition has the potential to be much more dangerous due to the existing prejudices that exist between the west and the east.
your right nothings totally gauranteed in life. who knows a comet might hit china.
lets make a friendly wager. if you and i are still around by 2050 we will see who the biggest and meanest gorilla on the planet is china or the US.
re gold. gold is about psychology not practicality. it probably doesnt make sense to have any but you do , especially in a volatile envioronment. the reason why we have volatility is that market analysts are clutching at straws as far predicting the future earnings of anything. infact in such a environment you would expect gold to be volatile as well but never reaching new lows. most of us i think still have nagging doubts as to whether or not we will be able to get our money out of the bank. the smartmoney is thinking its good to have lots of US dollars and a little gold just in case total financial meltdown decides to pull up a chair.
dont forget we are dealing with unprecedented historical circumstances as far as this economic crisis is concerned, atleast in our collective memory. i am betting that we will have to deal with one unprecedented event after another over the next 30 years, all centred around the US’s attempts to enforce dollar hegemony and its position in the world as a super power. you are right, the dollar will be king as long as the americans can enforce it, but within the next 30years the chinese will probably have deep enough financial pockets to jetison the US and challenge dollar hegemony.
January 31st, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Hi Steve,
I have been really enjoying the debate on this blog lately. But after reading your latest Debtwatch Report. I realised how much I have missed them over the Christmas period. I know you do this because you are passionate, but a big thanks anyway. The reports is what drew me to the site in the first place.
The basic theory behind the endogenous nature of the creation of money sits so well with me. During my career in banking I have always been aware of the demands of the borrowers driving the banks and the system to supply what they wanted.
For most of my working life I witnessed the bullish side of that (I saw a turn develop in Dec ‘07). What I have come to understand is that just as sentiment drives the system on the way up. It also drives the system on the way down.
Extreme bullishness drove the credit system to such a silly extreme in Australia, the way back the other way will be catastrophic.
January 31st, 2009 at 5:59 pm
I’ve been reading books about the Australian economy in the late 19th century. Basically you had the introduction of non-bank financial institutions which were willing to lend more money than the banks. The banks competed and this created a property bubble. Excessive consumerism was encouraged in particular by a scheme called ‘time-payment’ where consumers could get goods furniture now, and then make repayments over time at a later date. Workforce was also transformed with outsourcing and the young were job-hopping in the attempt to gain skills to learn a trade.
Economic historian Noel George Butlin wrote a book called “Investment in Australian Economic Development 1861-1900 (1964).
Page 424 – “The decline which occurred was essentially due to reduced demand for funds, reflecting a growing unwillingness on the part of investors to sustain the rate of residential investment. In the three eastern mainland colonies, there was one common element: the decline of speculative investment in housing. In varying degrees, with some important contrasts between the colonies, investment by landlords and owner occupiers was also effected”.
Page 425 -“The contraction of 1889 derived from a fall in demand for, and not in the supply of investible funds. For the main institutional investor, the speculative builder, the real difficulties emerging by the end of 1888 were two. First, in N.S.W. and Victoria, building had been carried on far in advance of population growth. In N.S.W., for example, the number of dwellings rose between 1881 and 1891 by 68 %, while population had grown by 50 %. In Victoria the contrast was even more obvious. But there were, in N.S.W., in 189l, 16,166 dwellings vacant-7 % of the total. The number of vacant houses in Victoria, 15,846, was almost identical. Only in Queensland and South Australia were vacancies at a moderate level.”
From my readings I have concluded that the issue is not with the supply of money, but the demand of it. The initial stage of the fallout is primarly the speculators. The course of deflation is in play. For any softening of deflation money needs to be released via wages/social security.
Other interesting snippets
Page 427 – “Steeply rising vacancy rates, due to speculative building, made it impossible to sustain the rapidly rising level of rents”.
The statistics I have indicates that indexed rental prices fell 27% in 1891, and then a further 21.3% between 1892 and 1897.
And from Graeme Davison’s “The Rise and Fall of Marvellous Melbourne” (1978):
Page 186 – “Meanwhile, under the combined impact of hardship, financial uncertainty and declining real estate values, borrowers began to default with their repayments. At first the building societies waived their right to recover fines for non-payment and simply added them to the principal. But as time went on, indulgence became impossible and default more widespread. By the end of 1893 J. W. Hunt, manager of the Modern Permanent Building Society, had to report to his British agents, we have now rather more than half of our borrowers unable to keep up their fortnightly repayments. Out of this number, that is, those unable to keep up their repayments, about 60 or 65% are unable to pay even interest.
Many properties depreciated so much that their value fell far short of the purchaser’s debt, while rents, which had declined to ‘almost nominal amounts’, were far less than weekly instalments. By mid-1894 the Modern Permanent had taken possession of nearly half its loans, and repayments had been suspended and interest alone was being paid on half the rest. Hunt confessed:
What I feared has actually come to pass and large numbers have thrown up their houses simply because of the terrible depreciation in values … The working men are asking themselves why they should continue to pay a society 12/6 or 15/ – a week when their houses are not now worth as much as they owe, and they can rent others next door at 2/ – or 3/ – a week.”
January 31st, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Steve
This may be a little off topic, but i was wanting to let you know that if you wanted to do any media interviews, that especially now in February and perhaps March would be the perfect time to get your message across.
We are now heading into wave 3 down of Primary wave 1, of wave C down.This will bring alot of the bears out and your predictions will be backed up with what is happening in the markets and the real economy.The stock markets will all be making new lows in the next 2 months.
The most pessimism will be felt in the next 2 months and then we will go up for several months and we will see optimism return until we make new lows from August, September and November.
Take advantage of the upcoming market conditions that will be working in your favour and add credence to your views.
January 31st, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Quote from article : “If the money multiplier model of money creation were correct, then ultimately this would lead to a dramatic growth in the money supply as an additional US$7 trillion of credit money was gradually created.”
Not necessarily. The banks might not be willing to lend new reserves at all, or at least they might only be willing to lend to prime clients, allowing the remainder of credit to dry up either by default or by repayment. The result could still be credit contraction and an increase in the price of government notes.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Corydora…
As you noted from Butlin, but today in Victoria it’s slightly worse so the outcome should be relatively similar.
ABS Statistics 2006: Victoria
Population 4,932,422
Total dwellings 2,085,113
Occupied dwellings 1,869,348
Unoccupied dwellings 215,729 = 10.35%
Page 425 -“The contraction of 1889 derived from a fall in demand for, and not in the supply of investible funds. For the main institutional investor, the speculative builder, the real difficulties emerging by the end of 1888 were two. First, in N.S.W. and Victoria, building had been carried on far in advance of population growth. In N.S.W., for example, the number of dwellings rose between 1881 and 1891 by 68 %, while population had grown by 50 %. In Victoria the contrast was even more obvious. But there were, in N.S.W., in 189l, 16,166 dwellings vacant-7 % of the total. The number of vacant houses in Victoria, 15,846, was almost identical. Only in Queensland and South Australia were vacancies at a moderate level.”
February 1st, 2009 at 9:38 am
That was precisely my point Frank.
February 1st, 2009 at 10:18 am
Steve – great post, thanks!
One concept I’ve been struggling to find an answer to is the role of bond issuance versus credit money creation through banks.
1. Do the debt measures you discuss (e.g., the oft cited ~300% US private-debt-to-GDP ratio) include debt that results from bond issuance?
2. Do bond issues (corporate, treasury, municipal) create new money through the mechanism you discuss? (I had assumed no and that they must be 100% funded at time of issuance, but perhaps that is incorrect).
3. If the answer to #1 is yes and #2 is no, then couldn’t that partially explain why the ratio of debt to money stock is so much higher than the theoretical prediction based on reserve ratio?
But whether or not bond issuance has contributed to the ponzi effect of asset appreciation, it does seem clear that the added debt servicing burden of bonds on top of bank loans contributes to the unsustainability of the mix…
February 1st, 2009 at 11:34 am
More on credit creation. Deposits or loans first?
In the real world banks lend to each other all the time. Those loans also form deposits at the receiving bank. So when a bank has huge demand from customers one month and they lend over their reserves, they just contact another bank and arrange a loan from them to boost reserves Easy!!! Bank do this for and to each other every day.
A Banks primary function is to lend money. They employ thousands of bankers to sell the loans. When it comes to raising deposits. If needs be this can be done by a few guys in their treasury department. The reason banks chase retail deposits is that they are cheaper. Another reason is when the interbank lending market dries up. As happened in September, Oct and Nov ‘08.
I’m convinced in practice that banks lend first and worry about reserves later.
Furthermore, the rise and rise of securitisation has allowed banks to “lend off balance sheet”. This is another way to say “lend without reserves”. The rise of securitisation in Australia has been exponential in the last 15 years. This means that the real reserve ratio is much lower than the 8% required in Oz.
February 1st, 2009 at 11:46 am
I really enjoyed the post thanks Steve. A few points come to mind though.
- The US government contributed to the expansion of credit money by promoting mortgage lending to low income households. I wonder where we would be now if they had not interfered with the credit money market?
- Your headline unemployment figure may be overstated, as it does not model people leaving the workforce. That doesn’t affect your results, of course, as you are modelling employment rather than unemployment. But you might be frightening people a bit more than you need to.
- Governments can participate in the credit money economy by nationalising banks, which they seem to be doing around the world now. However, that leaves an open questions about whether they will use nationalised banks for economic management, and whether increased supply of credit money would be frustrated by demand deficiency (ie. nobody will want to borrow, even if government owned banks make the credit available.)
Do you have any views on that last point?
February 1st, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Your last point is highly likely, but in the financial system that we need after this is over–as opposed to the one we’ve got now–I’d prefer to see lending overwhelmingly focused on working capital and genuine investment needs of firms, rather than speculative home and share purchases.
On your first point, yes you’re right, but I see this more in the light of an irresponsible mate encouraging a drunk driver to drive faster, rather than seeing it as the root cause. As I elucidate in the model, the financial system has an inherent bias to oversupply credit; governments added to that by falling for schemes like the subprime scam, and also be the rescues of Wall Street of which Greenspan and Bernanke were once so proud. But bubbles in asset markets and debt would have occurred anyway: governments have “merely” made them twice as bad as they otherwise would have been.
February 1st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Spot on BullTurnedBear: the mechanisms behind this are so simple it beggars belief that neoclassical economists have managed not to see them.
February 1st, 2009 at 12:08 pm
1. The original 165% of GDP figure for Australia didn’t include bond issuance; the new 177% figure does. The USA figures always incorporated them.
2. They don’t create new money, but they do create new debt. This is part of why debt is several times the size of money. It’s something I model by introducing non-banks into my system.
So you got it right on both counts, and of course your deduction follows too.
February 1st, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Steve,
What is going to happen to all this debt, will the piper be paid, who will pay him? or in other words, what happens next?
The way i see it, the inevitable stimulus eventually ends up in the hands of those with debt, who by this time are scared stiff, and use it to pay down debt. Thereby requiring even more stimulus to turn over the economy, resulting in more debt, but displaced.
Perhaps too big a topic for the comments section.
Also you’ve thrown out my model of what will happen to gold and the interaction of currencies in all this.
And a massive thankyou for your efforts on this site, it’s content is unique.
February 1st, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Thanks for the post, Steve. Excellent. I have 2 questions though.
1. Assuming the printing of money is ineffective, will it have any other negative impacts other than not working? I gather it will make it much harder to control credit when things get going…
2. Would I be right in saying that government stimulus packages will be largely ineffective (given the debt collapse will over-ride their conventional controls)? It would appear to me that if we didn’t do this we would have a solvent government during the hard times ahead. If the Australian Government keeps going we will have a broke destitute government like all it’s citizens!
February 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 am
Steve – thanks for the answers.
While your overall argument regarding credit money creation leading fiat money creation still makes sense, I think that without quantification of non-banks, the discussion around your graph of “USA Ratios of Debt to Money Stock Measures” seems slightly misleading in the context of comparisons to the money multiplier model.
Do you know the size of the bond market contribution to US debt? It looks to me like the US bond market was $25 trillion in 2006 — so I’m guessing closer to $30 trillion by 2008? With total US debt around 355% GDP or $50 trillion including government, that leaves roughly $20 trillion of credit money and $0.8 to 2 trillion of base money. So $20 trillion credit compared to an M3 of maybe $14 trillion isn’t as far off as your graph suggests — and wasn’t M3 discontinued in part due to the claim it couldn’t be measured easily? Let me know if I’ve got this wrong — either the data or my conclusions.
On a closely related topic… The total debt-to-GDP graphs are ominous, but I’ve wondered what the mix of bond market borrowing versus bank credit was. It seems like while bond-issued debt could create just as much fragile balance sheet leverage as bank issued credit, in a debt deflation wouldn’t default or repayment of bonds be less destructive systemically than default or repayment of bank credit, given that it is credit destruction that contracts the broad money supply and more directly impacts asset prices? Do Irving Fisher’s theories cover this distinction? If you’ve analyzed the relevance of this ratio in the past, I missed it.
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:14 am
Hey Steve,
Comprehensive report! My goodness…
If you have the time, an Austrian school perspective on the issues you covered regarding the money supply in the first quarter of your report: http://www.lewrockwell.com/rozeff/rozeff264.html. It’s definitely not as in-depth, but you may find it interesting.
My concern in all of this is that on the foreign exchange market, after the bursting of the US bond bubble, there will be dramatic run on the US dollar and a sharp increase in interest rates. My concern is that in order to satisfy bond redemptions, the US will eventually have to print dollars to cover it… which will lead to the run on the dollar (as everyone exchanges dollars for their native currency on masse) apart from a large scale loss in confidence of the US dollar because of inflation worries. Thus you may have a near worthless dollar driving up consumer prices, stemming from the dollar run, rather than price inflation from ‘too much money printed chasing too few goods’.
Does that make sense and is that a possibility in your estimation?
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:55 am
A good summary of the situation, but I would add some extra rather important details…
There was a step change across the orld in 1995-6 as the Bank of Japanstarted flooding the global financial system with zero interest rate yen
loans.
There was another step change in 1995-1996 as the USA effectively
abolished capital requirements as you mention in passing. This was not just a detail as the mention in passing seems to say; it was a crucial aspect of the credit explosion.
In effect with the near abolition of capital requirements the USA in 1995-6 begun a policy of wildcat banking turning “national champions” like Citi or Goldman or Lehman or Bear into wildcat banks.
As to the general “theory of money”, the idea that IOUs/letters of credit even predate money is not new to say the least, and arguably even fiat money is credit based money. There is an interesting discussion of this here:
http://www.moslereconomics.com/mandatory-readings/what-is-money/
http://www.moslereconomics.com/mandatory-readings/
Overall credit based money works well if wildcat banking is not permitted, and this requires some sort of capital requirements to constrain trhe issuance of credit money. That is the “fractional banking” story that matters; that some of the capital backing the credit money should or not be held in a central bank accounts matters very little.
The whole story revolves around how much credit money the banks are allowed to create to sell to their customers, after the sale of course, and that is capital requirements.
Which is the whole story as to insurance as well: how much capital insurers have to keep as reserve against claims, or else they will do infinite underwriting with the intent to pocket the premiums now and default when the accident happens.
Not for nothing AIG is part of this story along with Lehman: they both ended up selling insurance via derivatives.
Underprovision against future risks is probably the oldest and still most profitable and safest financial scam, and it has made a lot of money to bankers to turn a large part of their business into insurance-like banking, and to insurers to turn a large part of their business into banking-like insurance, and gleefully underprovide in both cases.
The solution in both cases is vigilance, vigilance to be enforced with capital ratios and harsh accounting audits.
The solution in other words is not economic, is politic: the political will to resist wildcat banking and wildcat insurance.
In democracies that will is very difficult to form, if the voters are as corrupted as those they vote for.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:13 am
«What is going to happen to all this debt, will the piper be paid, who will pay him? or in other words, what happens next?
The way i see it, the inevitable stimulus eventually ends up in the hands of those with debt, who by this time are scared stiff, and use it to pay down debt. Thereby requiring even more stimulus to turn over the economy, resulting in more debt, but displaced.»
Well, you are falling into the trap of using the framing of “Serious Economists” here, and being mislead into looking at symptoms.
One has to look at the big picture instead, and the big picture is amazing easy:
* In the USA, the UK, Oz etc. since 1995-6 a colossal credit bubble has flooded those economies with very cheap credit.
* As a result, in the USA the total nominal value of the housing stock has double from somewhat under $10t to somewhat under $20t, and similarly for the stock market.
* Now those colossal paper capital gains are vanishing. If it was just a case of something going on paper from $10t to $20t and then back to $10t it would be not much to worry.
* Unfortunately a large part of those paper capital gains have been monetized (by selling debt collateralized on them) and spent.
* WINNERS have been those who have made actual cash by selling the assets, or by selling debt related to the capital gains, or the Asian exporters of goods and services to those selling debt guaranteed by the capital gains, politicians who have been reelected thanks to largesse funded by taxes and borrowing fed by those paper capital gains.
* LOSERS have been the buyers of debt collateralized by the paper capital gain, the workers who have lost their jobs to the Asian countries, and anybody who has bought the assets after the capital gains had been realized.
If one looks at things even from a further distance, it is as if America had discovered vast new deposits of “oil” (a paper capital gain), sold them forward/mortgaged them to extract their value now, and then discovered that the “oil” wasn’t really there. Where the “oil” was vastly increased stock PEs, much higher price/median income values for houses, much lower interest rates for government debt.
While inflicting on themselves all the disadvantages that befall any country that discovers a lot of oil, a kind of financial “Dutch disease”: strong currency leading to extensive export of capital and jobs, profligate financial sector, high degree of corruption and income inequality, stagnation of enterprise, ambition to live off rent and not value creation.
The USA, the UK and Oz (and other similar countries) have been ion effect trying to “mine” rich deposits of paper wealth in their own housing, their own retirement accounts, their own businesses, rich deposits that turned out to be illusory.
Unless they are materialized, by runaway inflation of nominal prices.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:20 am
«mechanisms behind this are so simple it beggars belief that neoclassical economists have managed not to see them.»
This is slanderous
: you don’t know and cannot prove whether they didn’t or did see them.
Whether they saw them or not, they surely did not talk about them, but rather about fictitious ones.
And this gave them rich, rewarding careers, especially in the USA, where the role of Serious Economists is to uphold the central, moral, Truthiness of Economics, that the distribution of income depends solely on merit, on productivity.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 am
«if we didn’t do this we would have a solvent government during the hard times ahead. If the Australian Government keeps going we will have a broke destitute government like all it’s citizens!»
Don’t talk about “all it’s citizens”, as there is a sharp difference between the few winners like the Macquarie people who made a lot of money on the upswing and can retire in comfortable wealth and financial security, and the many losers who got suckered expecting that they could all could live like a pommy rentier in a mansion in a posh (?) Sydney or Melbourne suburb.
It is very sad for a foreigner to see that Ozzies fell for the same delusions as the snobbish english middle classes.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 am
I think this is very interesting. I assume it could be very inflationary if the 10 % increase in the money multiplier during the last few weeks continued to expand, and I assume, the fed still concerned about deflation, were careful to nurture whatever inflation they could get, meaning that they would possibly overshoot in their attempt to keep the debt bubble growing further?
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:01 am
clive said,
in January 31st, 2009 at 12:09 pm Hi Steve. This is a great article but I’ll need some time to digest it. No doubt you are aware that the PM has published his criticism of the neo-liberal agenda in ‘The Monthly’. I notice he makes mention that the ‘Emperor has no Clothes’….Perhaps he has been reading your work?
Let me sum this up for you so that even an incompetent could understand it….
In the normal course of business…some do better and are more successful than others. They have then accumulated a significant amount of wealth right?….It then is only natural that they would seek some kind of “return” on their “capital” we will call this “interest”..because in fact that is what is is. Well….since some will always be more talented than others and will continue to accrue wealth and interest…this grows at a geometric rate right? I mean…isn’t compound interest the 8th wonder of the world?? Now…for all you simpletons out there….I want you to take a look at a globe…that’s right….a globe..map whatever of the entire world…..now ask yourself a question….is the world limited or exponential??? The answer to this question is CRITICAL to a complete understanding of compound interest and an understanding of what is happening to the economy right in front of your eyes. My point is that eventually….those with “savings” and “wealth” will eventually run up against the reality that we live in a limited world. ANYTHING THAT GROWS EXPONENTIALLY WILL EVENTUALLY END. That “exponential” in this case is the payment of “interest” on debt. Why is it so hard for people to understand that compound interest is not a sustainable model, and that eventually…without some kind of debt relief…will destroy the economy…is this rocket science??? Aparently so. No…it’s more like those who understand keep their mouths shut…because they have benefitted from this ponzi scheme and have no desire for this “system” to be revealed to the average person…why would they…this is how they have gained their immense power and wealth. What a pitty that people like MIKE SHEDLOCK and other intellectuals are too cowardly/greedy/incompetent to accnowledge this TRUTH!!!
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:15 am
Hi Drwasho,
I was rather circumspect about the Austrian school in the paper–there’s a footnote but that’s it–but largely I think they have a naive theory of money: the state makes it, so the state causes inflation. Yet they also promote a free banking system–so how would that work? But they don’t have a model of one to answer the question (apart from the usual supply and demand stuff).
My model is of a free banking system, and it points out why that system too would have a proclivity to issue too much money, thus financing asset price booms and setting up crashes and Depressions. The difference with what we have is that, by delaying this process, the Fed has actually made the eventual crash worse–it certainly hasn’t stopped it.
Your conjecture is a possibility, but there is also the prospect of outright default (especially since most of the debt is private). I do ultimately expect a US currency crash, but that could end up with far less trade rather than simply inflation. This is a judgment call rather than a model/theory call, but I expect a persistent slump result rather than a Weimar Republic outcome.
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:19 am
Hi hbl,
There’s only so much I can cover in one report! I’ve built an extension of that model that includes non-bank lending–which creates debt but not money; and it is fairly easy to extend it to have firms issuing bonds–which also creates debt but not money. I included one minor debt/money imbalance mechanism in the model deliberately–the banking sector re-investing part of its profits in its capital base.
Irving’s theory doesn’t cover the debt/bonds distinction, but a firm that is unable to pay its bond commitments goes bankrupt just as does one that can’t meet its bank loan commitments. So the bankruptcy effects are still there, while the contraction of active money supply is not.
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:21 am
Hi juk,
Your expectations of what will happen–throwing fiat money at companies/people in debt, who then use it to repay their debt rather than spending–are very similar to mine.
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 am
Hi hbl and Steve,
Most corporate bond purchases are leveraged. That is, purchasers use the bond as security to borrow money so they can get a larger exposure to the bonds.
Therefore, buying bonds does expand the money supply. A sure sign of madness is using debt to buy more debt.
As you have said repeatedly Steve. The World has been caught up in a giant Ponzi scheme.
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:39 am
It seems to me the losses are so huge, that the rating on the US debt kind of decrease when a certain amount of the losses are absorbed by the taxpayers, giving higher long term interest rates, and that this process is what stops the debt deflation to take hold and rather cause a new cycle of boom and bust.
Ultimately if some kind of bad bank or some other thing that enable banks to get rid of their bad assets, will come at a price (higher long term interest rates), and ultimately cause a new process of more leverage. I think the consensus that the American consumer are dead, might be to overdone, when everyone agree on something, it’s usually wrong, however it becomes difficult for the US to sustain a large trade deficit when nobody wants to buy treasuries, but they will still buy stuff from China, they just have to pay more for it . The American consumer will start to save, but it’s not like they will stop consuming.
I think the worst is over.
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:34 am
Hi Steve,
Given that a debt moratoria would be a politically troublesome to implement, what are your thoughts on employer-of-last-resort schemes as a policy response? i.e. would you consider using an ELR to maintain nominal wages as a sufficient mid-term response to the GFC, or would this be inadequate without freeing up working capital for firms?
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 am
I support employer of last resort schemes–which were developed and promoted by Professor Bill Mitchell of the University of Newcastle, who like myself is a non-orthodox economist.
But I don’t regard them as a panacea, nor a cure for the current crisis. Ultimately I think that requires something that directly or indirectly reduces debt. Leaving the debt there while running an ELR would be a bit like Frank’n'Furter in the Rocky Horror Show in reverse, promising to “remove the symptom, but not the cause”. The cause would continue a slump in business activity.
From what I know of their views, I also differ from Bill (and his colleague Warren Mosler) in that I believe a serious downturn is inevitable, even if we abolish debt as I suggest (from my reading of their arguments, they are more sanguine about the prospects for government action to prevent a serious downturn–they just (rightly) disagree with the mainstream over what that action should be). Seeing aggregate demand as the sum of GDP plus the change in debt, if we are to cease being a debt-dependent economy then we have to remove our dependence on the latter term–but that involves starting from 20% less aggregate demand than we currently have.
Since part of that demand involves wasteful speculation on asset markets, some of that can be absorbed without real loss (though of course with fictitious wealth being massacred). But some of that debt also finances physical economic activity, so there has to be a slump in demand.
It could be argued that, since we were supplying that demand, the capacity to redistribute incomes and adjust demand to supply rather than vice versa must exist. Yes, maybe; but that physical capacity to supply resides in the developing world these days, courtesy of the relocation of production that others call globalisation. So a slump in demand in the OECD would still occur–and in a capitalist economy, it’s aggregate demand that rules the roost in any case, not supply.
February 2nd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Adam Carr says the RBA will be hiking rates before the end of 2009: SCOREBOARD: Beware inflation
My view is the impact of the dramatic crash in China is only now starting to impact Australia as commodities contracts get renegotiated. The Australian recession should be in full swing by the 2nd half of 09 — unemployment will be rising, house prices falling, and corporate failures everywhere — and the last thing on the RBA’s mind will be hiking rates.
Is it just me, or had Adam Carr completely lost the plot?
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Steve –
In response to your post, one analyst responded as follows:
“The government is going to do infrastructure repair and other job creation programs, and some of the funding for these programs will likely come from money creation (printing). No banks are required. And how many unemployed are going to refuse jobs? In fact, due to money creation, which is inflationary, even government debt is not directly affected. The government can definitely force inflation. Their problem will be limiting it once it starts.”
How would you respond? Thank you
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
I think the crash is over in commodities. The baltic dry index (dry shipping index) are up 35 % from increasing demand. Sugar are higher than before the credit crisis started, oil have bottomed out
(see comparison to 1998 on the gold/oil ratio)
, cotton have been making gains for two straight months, gold are making all time highs in most currencies, cocoa have not been this high since 1986 as it is right now.
The bond market are again pricing in inflation, it no longer signals deflation, so no it’s inflation again that the market’s worry. It’s really strange how fast things change from inflation to deflation to inflation again. It’s kind of ironic that the crisis is over, once the ones in charge start to go crazy with the money.
dow /gold is trending even lower, now it’s down at 9.
http://www.investmenttools.com/images/wfut/metals/dow_gold.gif
“For the first time since 2007, Treasury investors are betting that inflation will accelerate. ”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aL4DN7bHk3FU&refer=home
The whole “crisis” is probably just very oversold in the media, and back to normal as soon as the inventory of unsold homes in various markets clear.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
His statement is a definition “money creation, which is inflationary”, not analysis. The point of my paper was (a) governments don’t control the money supply–if anything the causation is reversed; and (b) the scale of debt is so great that most government money creation is going to end up topping up unused reserves rather than adding to demand for commodities.
If he were right, inflation in Japan would have gone through the roof in 2002 when the Japanese government increased M1 by 27% in one year. Instead, the rate of deflation accelerated slightly.
In other words, he’s a typical neoclassical economist: “I have my textbook–don’t confuse me with the facts or serious thought”.
Pardon the vehemence, but after 30 years of putting up with smug head in the sand stuff like this, occasionally my patience wears thin.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I wonder if we can call and end to the deflation debate? Or it that is still to early? In light of the new evidence it really don’t seem like deflation still is a fear, given the bond market now are pricing in inflation in 2009?
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I should have added that the scale of money creation is the problem: with US Base Money equivalent to about 2% of outstanding debt, it would take an awful lot of printing to make an impact–far more than I expect the Fed would countenance. So the fact that “no banks are required” doesn’t alter the problem materially.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Hi Prudentsaver,
You just do not quit. Have you been trading based on your ideas? If you have you must be down for the count. I hope not though.
You have been calling “The crisis is over” since you first started posting on this site. Yet the DOW and the S&P had their worst January ever. Did you catch that EVER!!!! In Nov and again in Dec and Jan you called it over. How do you rationalise that?
10 and 30 year US treasuries have been correcting their previous rally. When that correction is over and the yield starts falling again, will you then say “It’s deflation again”. The market never moves in a straight line. The market must always go back before it goes forward again.
Did you read Steve’s latest post at all? Do you agree or disagree that the market increases and decreases money supply? Not the governments. If Steve is wrong, please point out why. That would be of much better value to us than your statement “That the bottom is in”.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Excellent article, as always. It seems strange that after centuries of using money, we still disagree over what it is and where it comes from. We don’t even know how to measure it, and we certainly don’t know how to manage it safely, especially when it reaches plague proportions.
Your thesis is by far the best explanation I know of and leaves others in its dust, but it still seems incomplete. There is something fundamentally different between currency, current accounts, term deposits, financial assets and derivatives. They are all money-like, but the differing elements of time and liquidity are critical to the phenomena we now see. I assume you are still working on those aspects.
Your quotes from Marx are most apt, because it is Marx that Rudd and other leaders will now try to emulate as they grab for more power. The challenge is to devise a new financial system that preserves capitalism and entrepreneurship. We shall need them to solve the many other problems waiting in the wings.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Hi guys,
I am not so sure whether this is correct. On the weekend I was told my cousins who work in the banking sector that the government has recently relaxed the requirements allowing non residents to buy property/homes in Australia. This was not previously the case. Is this the case? or I misunderstood them?
If house prices fall a bit, wont that attract a lot of overseas investors so that it avoid the market tanking by 20 to 40%?
I known a lot of my friends from other parts of the world who love the sunshine and weather and are dying to come out here. As a surprise they are all cashed up and have no problems with the current prices and dont need to take out a mortgage.
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
@joshua – there was talk about this a few weeks ago and Roubini posted alink to a paper by an economist from Griffith Uni(?) who was promoting the idea. To me it is another dumb attempt to sell off the farm – think of it as mining houses – a one off injection of cash and then the asset is gone.
How about selling off defence? I guess some people are happy with that as well.
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Hi Steve, I am an ex advertising guy, and see a serious need to ‘dumb’ down your ideas into animated projections and graphs. I have in mind the gapminder software whcih Hans Rosling demonstrates here.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen.html
Expressing various economic theories and their projected consequences via animation would have a profound educational effect on the masses. And stop neoclassicals from getting away with their dodgey creed….
I think addressing this issue of how money is generated nowadays is extremely important. I tried to understand why we had asset inflation over the last 8years, and concluded it was due to foreign credit expanding private debt in Australia. If Australians borrow more from overseas and inflate asset values, that’s the same as creating money……I don’t see where the 8% reserve ratio gets maintained though when we borrow more from overseas….
Keep up the good work. Day by day, gold goes up, and you become more validated in your views.
Cheers
Bruce Gray
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
ABS release today showed a 29% decline in the number of Australian house transfers in the June 2008 quarter over 2007.
Brisbane house transfers (Jun qtr 07 vs 08) was within the error range of my forecast – I expected a fall of 40% and the actual fall was 44%. (Note, I made a small error in my original forecast on this site – I corrected it on “bubblepedia” and my own site prior to release – and my raw data are now on my website)
My forecast for Brisbane transfers for September 2008 quarter remains for a fall of 70% over the same quarter of the previous year
This is significantly more than the 21.4% decline attributed to REIQ data in a recent Courier Mail article.
Still no word from Melissa Ketchell on whether she is prepared to run with the DNRW and ABS stats in another article in the Courier Mail.
I have seen no evidence of a significant bounce back in activity in recent months in the latest data.
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Great idea Bruce,
And thanks for reminding me! I had seen Hans’s work before but I didn’t keep track of where. I’ll see if I can make use of it; it’s also something that the data repository work that some volunteers are doing here could make very good use of.
All the best, Steve
February 2nd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Steve, I believe Gapminder is run by Hans’ son, Ola. I understand they are socially just in their approach to commerce. If you have a team of helpers, it might be worth them getting in touch with Hans and Ola, with the idea of Gapminder producing comparative economic models, and solutions.
It would be the sort of community service they would see the value of, as every nation needs these concepts understood by the electorate evermoreso….and they would produce them a lot quicker in a lot of languages.
I presume they’d need help from a team of guys like you to accumulate the data and write agorithms.
BTW, I think I read some time back Google bought into Gapminder. Though I’d thinkGOogle would see the need for this economics/finance educational communication thing too.
If you want another helper, put me in touch with your team and I’ll see what I can do…
Cheers again
Bruce Gray