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Australia is once again proving itself to be the Land of the Tweedles. Though Labor and Liberal loudly proclaim their differences, on the key economic issues, they’re (pardon the pun) carbon-copies. Both agree that the Federal Budget should be returned to surplus. Both believe that the “Global Financial Crisis” (which Americans and most of the rest of the OECD call “The Great Recession”) is behind Australia, and the imperative now is to stop the growth in government debt. And both would leave untouched spending programs that make us worse off by promoting asset bubbles rather than serious investment.
On their core economic beliefs, Tweedledee and Tweedledum are wrong. The GFC is still with us, and—certainly in Australia—government debt is not the key problem. Government policy that aims to drive the budget back to surplus may instead drive the economy back into recession.
Though ‘Dee and ‘Dum raucously debate the level of government debt, both the boom before the GFC and the crisis after it were caused by out-of-control private debt. Rising household debt fuelled bubbles in asset markets—particularly housing—across the OECD. While Dee and Dum concur that Australia was a responsible exception to the global rule, the bubble in household debt here was in fact bigger than that in the USA—mortgage debt peaked at 74% of GDP in the USA in late 2007; Australian mortgage debt peaked 14% higher, at 88% of GDP, in March 2010.
Figure 1

Against this, the level of government debt in Australia about which both Dee and Dum obsess is trivial. If government debt is a serious problem—an issue I return to later—then the USA might have something to debate. American government debt is 15 times larger than Australia’s—relative to our respective GPDs. And American government debt is 117% the level of mortgage debt; while in Australia the ratio is less than 7%! That Dee and Dum can fill the airwaves with alarm about the level of government debt in Australia is truly surreal.
Figure 2

Dee and Dum concur that we avoided the GFC because of our lucky relationship with The Red Queen (China). There is some truth to this (they can’t be consistently wrong), but both avoid discussing the major reason we boomed while the rest of the world slumped—which is that Dee encouraged households to keep on borrowing money while the rest of the world was deleveraging.
Dee and Dum don’t discuss this policy—they call it the First Home Owners Scheme, I call it the First Home Vendors Scheme—because both worship the sacred cow of rising house prices. The twins both favour expensive affordable housing—yes I know that’s a nonsense phrase, but we’re on the other side of the Looking Glass here. So they both maintain, without discussion, policies designed to keep house prices high and ever rising, while at the same time pretending to make housing affordable with expensive policies that help keep the budget in deficit.
That’s why, despite their obsession with reducing the deficit, neither Dee nor Dum will even discuss three simple policy ideas:
- Limit the First Home Vendors Grant to new housing only;
- Limit new Negative Gearing to new housing only; and
- Bring the capital gains tax rate back into alignment with the income tax rate.
These policy changes would do wonders for the Budget bottom line while improving the economy—which both Dee and Dum claim they’re trying to do (“Trust us, we’re Tweedles…”).
With roughly 100,000 First Home Buyers every year, 90% of whom buy an existing property rather than a new one, the abolition of this house price support scheme (that’s not what Dee and Dum call it, but that’s what it is) could save $600 million a year—and the continued support for new housing might spur housing construction as the Boost did in 2008. That’s a rather more responsible way to save money than by cutting medical research funding, which is one of the deficit reduction kites Dee flew a month back.
Limiting negative gearing to new properties only would also do something to increase the supply of new housing for renters. Both Dee and Dum claim that is the real goal of the current policy, but despite their bleatings, everybody knows that, as a scheme to encourage speculation on rising house prices, negative gearing is simply another plank in their mutual house price support scheme. So-called investors actually do less real investment than even owner-occupiers these days—less than 2 percent of new dwelling finance goes to investors building or buying new properties.
Figure 3

If negative gearing was restricted only to real investors—people who actually build something new, rather than buying something old and waiting for its price to rise—then renters might someday be able to find somewhere to rent.
Limiting negative gearing to new properties only wouldn’t affect current property speculators (I’m sorry, I meant investors)—at least not directly—but it would reduce the growth of this Budget-sapping Black Hole by 95% or more.
Finally, the decision to halve the rate of capital gains tax back in 1999 was one of the stupidest things Dum ever did (when he was in power)—aand therefore it worked a treat in Looking Glass Land. It costs the government close to $10 billion dollars a year—almost the amount of the deficit they’re both claiming to know how to reduce. And, like everything else Dee and Dum don’t bicker over, it promotes speculation over true investment.
Now it’s the main cause of a blowout in the Budget deficit this year we’re told, as capital gains have evaporated from our anaemic share market and the now bursting house price bubble. So why not make the Budget hit less extreme by bringing the rate back to the same as that for income?
Are either of them likely to even discuss abolishing this tax distortion? Not on your Nellie. And the same goes for the other two policies too, because behind their facade of debate, Dee and Dum both know that anything that would reduce house prices—and genuinely make them affordable—would lose them votes with the Looking Glass electorate. So even though these policy changes would probably eliminate the deficit overnight—which they both claim to want to do—they will instead fight about how hard to hit the soft targets of welfare recipients, universities and their own bureaucracy.
Which brings us to the other issue on which they both agree: the need to reduce the government deficit. Are they right?
In the interests of promoting healthy scepticism here, let me propose a simple rule of thumb: almost anything that Dee and Dum agree upon is likely to be wrong (and this applies in the USA as well to their Dee and Dum).
Firstly, government debt didn’t blow out on its own accord: it grew because private debt stopped growing. This is obvious in the US data: government debt fell after the 1990s recession ended—and only rose since late 2001 because of foreign wars. Government spending blew out in 2008, not because the Dumocrats took over from the Deepublicans, as their political debate would have it, but because private debt-financed spending collapsed when the housing and stock market Ponzi Schemes ended.
Figure 4

Secondly, it’s a nonsense to argue, on an analogy with households, that government debt can bankrupt a government that has a captive Central Bank. If a household spend more than it earns, then after it exhausts its supply of credit, it is bankrupt. But if a government spends more than it taxes, it accumulates a debt to its Central Bank… which it can pay by borrowing from its Central Bank. Unlike a private bank, a Central Bank can’t refuse to lend to its primary borrower.
So Federal Government in the USA or Australia won’t go bankrupt—though their States could, as could the Eurozone countries of Europe. Hence, what should be discussed are the economic consequences of running a deficit: assuming instead that a government can run out of money is TweedleDumming down the problem.
I apologise for complicating the debate here—Tweedle-dumming a problem is much more cathartic—but the indications are that this is not the time to be reducing government spending in either the USA or Australia. The crisis was caused by accelerating debt—which gives the economy a boost—giving way to decelerating debt—which drives aggregate demand down. This is easily shown by graphing the acceleration of debt—the Credit Impulse—against changes in unemployment (the correlation coefficients in the next two charts are -0.77 and -0.75—extremely high correlations over such a long period with such variable economic conditions).
Figure 5

Though Australia certainly was assisted during the GFC by its sales of coal and iron ore to the Red Queen, the real reason that it “avoided” the GFC was that it restarted the private debt engine more rapidly than America did. The Credit Impulse stopped its plunge at -12 percent of GDP here, versus a peak negative of -26 percent in the USA. Australia also spent less time in the red on the Credit Impulse than the USA: 26 months versus 30.
Figure 6

Now both economies are recovering, not because the physical economies are in good shape—they’re both very sick, except for Australia’s minerals sector—but because the Credit Impulse has turned positive in both countries.
Figure 7

This, however, is not a sustainable path to recovery.
Firstly, borrowing money and gambling on rising asset prices is what got us into this crisis in the first place: relying on a recovery in private debt to get us out of this slump is like prescribing more cancer as a cure for cancer.
Secondly, it’s highly unlikely that either country can sustain the acceleration in debt that is needed to keep the Credit Impulse positive, because if they did, then at some point falling debt would have to give way to rising debt once more. Call me crazy, but I just can’t see that happening.
Figure 8

So what is likely to happen soon—and sooner for Australia than for America—is that the positive boost from the Credit Impulse will run out, and turn negative again. If, at the same time, the government’s input turns negative courtesy of deficit reduction, then the recession will return.
Ultimately, the only way out of this crisis is to abolish the debt that caused it: debt that financed speculation on rising share and house prices rather than to finance genuine investment. As Michael Hudson puts it so simply, debts that can’t be repaid, won’t be repaid. At some stage—maybe ten years after the Great Recession began, we’ll finally learn the truth of that eloquent aphorism, and tackle the real cause of this crisis.
But until then, we’ll distract ourselves by watching the pointless debate between Tweedledum and Tweedledee.



AntiMoralHazard May 14, 2011 at 12:25 pm | #
“Wow aus_ed is in a warpath! He is showing his true colors by attacking Professor Steve Keen blantly.”
I don’t read aus-ed comments as an attack on Steve Keen at all – i read is as a contribution worthy of consideration. You will probably find in the final analysis that everybody is a little bit right – but Steve Keen opens the door, or lifts the veils for each of our eyes (ISIS is naked like the Emperor) and it is we that are blind.
On Gold and the stealth acoming of the new Global Gold Standard – after the Great Bullion Heist which is currently underway:
Total Gold:
http://www.les-crises.fr/les-reserves-d-or/
“I thought there’s a mining boom in WA?”
There is indeed, and things have never been better and prices are up – but this boom is about theft of Australia’s resources and is not for the profane, vulgar and unwashed. Get over it – your taxes at work.
I must suggest that while this housing thing is interesting, it is not the real issue du jour, which is a Gillard led revival of the Nuclear Australia Legislation of the US – GWB and Oz – JH et al, with Abbott to turn Australia into the Global Nuclear Waste Dump. I posted on this Blog before. There are recent protest in NT which will be over-ruled, an eager WA and many others which, of course, is fuelled by the USA who don’t want this toxic shit in their country. The final legislation is said to be ready for final deployment; stealth and deception.
We are being set up for self-destruction, but then Australia is just a waste land of no importance.
You can start here and Google:
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2011/politics/australia-open-for-nuclear-sewage-business/
From @ Mish
“Economic Bust in Australia:Near-Record Corporate Bankruptcies, Employment Drops Unexpectedly; Rise in Bad Home Loans;Record Low Property Transactions”
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/05/economic-bust-in-australianear-record.html
Nothing really new here as long as you don’t take any notice of the Australian Press.
” What the hell is it that the RBA sees that I don’t?” Asks Mish
Answer: It is called ‘salting the mine’.
“”We’re obviously expecting the Reserve Bank to increase rates and there’s possibly one or two rises to come in the next six months,” Mr Norris told an investor briefing.”
You bet he is right – what do you think Glen Stevens was doing with the Bankers in Europe recently – talking up Australia as the best geo-politico-banker- location for hot money in foreign deposit accounts – for propping up the TBTF 4 Banks. Higher interest rates will keep the bankers very happy – and screw to unwashed (soon to be irradiated)
Manipulated balance sheets and off-the-books- siv’s or not – in natural physics – lack of integrity means unsustainable – it is simple as that.
The competition for money is on and here there are no such things as Law that will be respected.
they say this is rock bottom…..http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/wa-suffers-record-low-property-transactions/story-e6frg2ru-1226054805452
um,no it’s only just begun.
Steve,
How about giving a free copy of the 2nd Ed. to loyal Debtwatch subscribers rather than property trolls? This would constitute an efficient allocation of scarce resources to consumers.
To go on from previous discussion, as for the supposed “rental crisis” supported by official vacancy figures supplied by the real estate institutes like REIV of 1.5%, that figure only lists the number of vacant properties listed by landlords for the purposes of renting. Vacant properties that aren’t listed do not count in the official figures.
Prosper Australia/Earthsharing Australia released a report in 2008 using water consumption figures of properties in Melbourne. Using a cut-off figure of 50L/day (efficient use is listed as 118L/day by a sole occupant) averaging over six months, the analysis found that there are tens of thousands of vacant houses sitting around doing nothing, leading to a real vacancy rate of 7% in Melbourne’s suburbs. Speculators are foregoing rental income in favor of capital gains.
http://www.earthsharing.org.au/wp-content/uploads/iw2lh-08-report.pdf
As I’ve written:
“The reasons as to why investors will forego rental incomes on vacant properties probably have most to do with Australia’s generous taxation policies for purchasing housing. If the costs of financing a mortgage are greater than rental income (which in this case is zero) the taxpayer will subsidize the investor through negative gearing. In 1999, the Howard administration permitted a 50% cut to the capital gains tax on the nominal gains of an asset after an asset was held for at least one year, favoring short-term speculation (McAuley 2009). Also, vacant housing attracts lower council rates (no need for utilities and garbage collection), little to no maintenance costs and there are no tenants to get rid of. Depending on the laws and regulations of each state, tenants need to be provided with a notice to vacate, which may take months. Investors may see this waiting period as intolerable because of personal or financial reasons, for instance, wanting to offload the property if market conditions become unfavorable. All these reasons coincide to provide a favorable investment climate which fosters, not long-term investment for the sake of rental income, but rather short-term speculation in expectation of future capital gains.”
Steve,
Can you please kick out aus_ed from this blog? He’s obviously a property troll who’s deliberating wasting everyone’s time.
Phillip,
You’ve got to be careful with your comment about letting investment property be vacant while collecting negative gearing subsidy. That is illegal and it is what the ATO will want to crack fown on.
AntiMoralHazard,
While I was not wrong about investors claiming negative gearing while not renting it out, you are still right in saying that is illegal – I will change this, thanks.
@ Ferb May 14, 2011 at 4:56 pm | #
“they say this is rock bottom…..http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/wa-suffers-record-low-property-transactions/story-e6frg2ru-1226054805452‘
And, I say it is far from “rock bottom” – you ain’t seen anything low as yet – as it is just getting started. Lots of pain in the pipeline to come – grasshopper – in this Nation of Risk Free Banking..
@ AntiMoralHazard May 14, 2011 at 6:43 pm | #
I don’t see anyone wasting your time – you do that yourself. We want all the facts – not just those that you approve of. Are you intending to run for Pope or Governor of the RBA? Whatever, all the facts are necessary.
Phillip,
I wonder how many landlords are playing with the law by collecting the neg gearing subsidy while their property lie vacant waiting for renters to come. If this is a widespread practice, than a good shake out is necessary.
That comes to my mind regarding the quoted rental yields. As I mentioned earlier, I learnt of a novice investor who listened to the agent and raised his rents because he was told it is “too cheap”. That chap lost his tenant and his property was empty for months.
If we include the periods when the property is vacant and not collecting rent, the rental yield for the year will be dragged down. Are the quoted rental yields adjusted for the periods when the property lie vacant? Maybe house4aussies have some analysis for that?
AntiMoralHazard,
Well in this case we have to decern between two types of property investors who claim negative gearing. In the first camp are the dishonest ones who have no intention of renting at all and declare NG, while the honest ones do rent out and declare NG, even though there may be periods between old tenants leaving and new tenants arriving. The ATO requires investors to declare rental income for a fiscal year, but probably not a month-by-month breakdown.
Check out page 15 for a summary of whose making gains and losses with rental income.
ATO. (2010). “Taxation Statistics 2007-2008,” Australian Tax Office, http://www.ato.gov.au/content/downloads/cor00225078_2008TAXSTATS.pdf
“The Australian Tax Office (ATO) provides an interesting summary of individuals’ net rental income for the year of 2007-2008, with 69.4% of individuals reporting that their net rental income was less than $0, making a loss of $12.75 billion. The remaining portion made a gain of $4.12 billion. The total net rental income was a loss of $8.63 billion (ATO 2010: 15).”
Aus_ed May 13, 2011 at 8:49 pm
You said: “Lyonwiss, re: retirement strategy – this is where the government steps in again. No talk about numbers but we are heading towards 35m population by 2050 anyway”.
The strategy of relying on population growth to solve economic problems is the ultimate Ponzi scheme. In the US the social security system is going bankcrupt based on this idea: ever expanding population to meet pension promises to previous generations.
The ALP is so retarded that it is struggling to learn yesterday’s economics. The party is trying to prove it understands neoclassical economics. The Labor government is comparing its policies to what the coalition would have done if they were in government – a gross inferiority complex for a government to have. A government has to know and be convinced of its own policies or it is all a pretense.
Only Dick Smith and Kelvin Thompson appear to understand that exponential growth and Ponzi schemes cannot last forever. Sooner or later, we have to consider sustainable economics, which is not yet the paradigm. The Ponzi Scheme in Australian house can go on longer, if the government is bent on interfering, but sooner or later the government has to recognize its limits.
@ Lyonwiss May 14, 2011 at 10:32 pm | #
Aus_ed May 13, 2011 at 8:49 pm
“… but sooner or later the government has to recognize its limits.”
Outrageous laughter… are your joking? These people have no limits except in reality, treasonous intent and self agenda.
“The insane laugh the loudest”.
LOL
peterjbolton May 14, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Government is a complex object, depending on which faction is more powerful. The US government appears to recognize some of its limits. But whether there is sufficient resolve to make a difference is moot. Marx would have said historical forces are unstoppable. But Marx has not been right on everything.
Lyonwiss,
I usually agree with you but not on this assertion that the US social security system is going bankrupt. As Dean Baker has pointed out countless times, SS will function just fine for the next decade, before it runs out of funding. A slight increase in the payroll tax will fix it for the indefinite future. At the moment, it has a huge surplus and the government has taken advantage of this by stuffing SS with non-marketable IOUs and using the surplus to pay for its spending.
At the moment there is a huge fear campaign carried out against SS in the US. The first reason is because it helps middle and working-class people to survive – an obvious flaw if one believes that poor people should starve. Clearly, the rich have no use for its meager payments (a drop in the ocean for them).
The second is because the rich want to privatize it and make enormous management fees from the program, regardless of how SS performs. At the moment, the administration costs are tiny, about 3%. If it were privatized, those costs could well rise to 20-30%, as with the US’s insanely inefficient privatized health care system. Executives and managers want inefficiency, not efficiency because this is where they make their obscene incomes and bonuses (fat on the bone).
An excellent article by the economist Saul Eslake on the problems of negative gearing, debunking the claims its supporters say about it.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/time-to-change-the-unfair-rules-for-negative-gearing-20110424-1dsu6.html
Philip May 15, 2011 at 12:22 am
The US social security system is not about politics, regardless of what dean Baker says. It is about arithmetic. It is fundamentally a Ponzi scheme: new comers paying for past and imminent retirees. Dean Baker talks about short-term fixes, just like what the US government did in the past. If you have spent your future, there is no solution, regardless of who proposes it, the middle class, Dean Baker or the bankers.
Philip May 15, 2011 at 12:22 am
I have to add that when I said “no solution”, I mean no solution from simple adjustments within the range of current policy settings, e.g. a small tax hike etc. From what I read, Dean Baker is a neoclassical economist, admittedly of greater independence and critical thought than most, but a neoclassical economist nevertheless.
An example is the following statement from a recent paper he wrote on US pension crisis:
http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/pensions-2011-02.pdf
in which he said: “As a practical matter, the stock market has provided an average real return of more than 8 percent for 30-year periods when the PE ratio at the start was under 15 to 1.” He thinks the US pension crisis is only an over-reaction to the temporary plunge in the stock market.
Only a neoclassical economist would think the last 30-year is an indicator of the future. In fact, the last 30-year represents a period of extreme capitalism, after the demise of socialism, when credit was allowed to explode leading to the sort of capitalist crisis predicted by Karl Marx. (I’m neither a socialist nor a Marxist by the way.)
I would say that the the stock market is unlikely to have real return of “more than 8 percent” for the next 30-year period. In Australia, for the last decade or so, it was more like 5 percent. But there is no reason why this real return may not be higher or lower. Dean Baker’s work is pretty much academic data-mining, without special insight which is possible only if someone is prepared to work outside the neoclassical paradigm.
@ Lyonwiss
May 14, 2011 at 10:56 pm | #
peterjbolton May 14, 2011 at 10:41 pm
“Government is a complex object, depending on which faction is more powerful. The US government appears to recognize some of its limits. But whether there is sufficient resolve to make a difference is moot. Marx would have said historical forces are unstoppable. But Marx has not been right on everything.”
That which you define here are the US ‘government’ processes which Americans’ call “Democracy” – that is, where the factions (gangs) rule. But the US system is unlike the Australian system as the Crown (read: UK) dominates in a colonial modelling, albeit through a symbolic Federation which is made up of each of the independently granted states plus the Northern Territory.
However saying this, there are some strong affiliations that have been built between the US and Australia which of course are totally in the US favour, but here is an article in that context…
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2011/australian-identity/australias-vassal-state-relationship-to-the-united-states/
which you may find interesting.
It is now obvious that the US sees Australia as a convenience to dump its toxic waste and a “Death Star” platform from which to mount its many new aspired wars, particularly in the South East and Far East Asian theatres. Naturally, we have our many feral and bogan in high positions of influential position that see this traitorous course as their only choice – but these types are innately and inherently incompetent, but opportunistic, and would normally spend their lives under rocks in some corner of some wasteland.
Marx said a lot of things that were right, of course, but no man is right q00% of the time; that’s a given, but nevertheless, that is the driving ideology behind Australia’s Government where the seat of Government is in London.
Australian are the “cannon fodder” of the British and we all suffer from Stockholm’s Syndrome but if we all don’t soon wake up, we will be irradiated for the next million years or so and gone beyond even the reach of a dream.
Hi Philip,
I hope you observed the emphasized “almost” in that post!
As for cheaper (not free) copies for Debtwatch members, that is on the cards once the membership system for the Centre for Economic Stability is up and running. There are to be 3 tiers of membership, the second and third of which get copies of publications. Hopefully that will be in operation by around late July.
He’s wasting his time too AMH, as someone else recently observed. I haven’t yet evicted anyone from this list (which now has well over 10,000 subscribers), and I will only do so for rudeness or flaming.
“Home loan fall points to housing weakness”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/05/16/3217854.htm
“Australians credit card debt climbs to $49.3 billion – Reserve Bank”
http://www.news.com.au/money/money-matters/credit-card-balances-climb-to-50-billion-rba/story-e6frfmd9-1226056643781
Hi Ak,
A few of my mates got land in the Ponds most of them paid around 350K for a block size around 450/480sq. There are also the blocks that sell for 400K, those are next to the proposed shopping center. The cost of building a house now turn key package is 240K to 255K for a single story. Plus there are the interest cost that would make the total cost almost 600K itself.
I said 640K based on the surrounding houses in my area in Dec 2010. It surely can be down but you are correct as there are different subdivisions within The Ponds so houses in the Waterfall area may be higher than the Lorius etc. The goal of Landcom/Australand was to make The Ponds like Nor West Business Park and it is indeed a nice suburb. I like Newberry, Kellyville Ridge and Stanhope Gardens too and I am not sure you can compare Quakers Hill with these newer suburbs. However, I really do not think the current price is justified even if they had marvelous water views like the waterfall division (I really think Jessica Irvine lost all credibility when she said that!).
Prices increased at the Ponds for several reasons some of them being 1. The home buyers grant and 2. The government sold land at Stanhope Gardens opposite the shopping center that was allocated to build a public school to a private company who subdivided the lots and started selling them for around 300K, then 330K, then 350K and last time I checked there they had houses going for were 740K which is just crazy. When landcom/australand realized that people were buying at these prices, they quickly raised their prices in nearby Newberry, Kellyville Ridge and the Ponds. 3. I reckon the Banks had a large part to play in fueling this craze.
Anyway, coming back to the point, I really don’t care if the house is even valued at even 500K because I am not interested in making money out of it and I cannot explain but it is hard to sell one you are involved in the building process it becomes emotional not to forget cost associated with stamp duty for next purchase, cost of moving, renting etc. I just want to avoid being in negative equity as I had to save for years for the deposit and frankly speaking despite having savings I had no buying power simply because the Banks at that time were willing to lend to somebody who had no deposit. So it was all about who was willing to borrow more and savings had no value.
My salary is reduced to less than 4 months and besides the house expenses I totally forgot about the car expenses. I am frankly fed up and I don’t think life should be so difficult. It would be helpful if my wife was working but I am on a decent income and feel sorry for the newer generation and new migrants. Before the mortgage, I was living with family and I could save a lot and spend on the local economy. Now, I am forced to buy stuff on ebay, second hand items. I do not go and eat outside, I quit smoking and drinking (which many consider might be a good thing) and I am forced to do my bit to kill the economy. I do not have the benefit of wage inflation like the baby boomers who support these high prices and suggest generation X are just spoilt brats and want things easy.
The other part that sickens me is that the Independent Pricing Commission has not grip on reality, fixed charges for water around 190$ per quarter? Even if your water consumption is 0. They have also approved the increase in electricity prices. Not to forget council rates are around 240$ per quarter and they are ever ready to increase transport fairs for our pathetic transport system. Not to forget the car costs. I reckon guys like Glen Stevens work at these places and are definitely killing the economy,
Then you have people like Craig James who says Australians should be happy because they are getting wealthier and they just do not realize it? And not to forget the famous Chris Joye and his followers who say Australia is different.
I designed my house to minimize using electricity and to reduce carbon emissions. I wanted to go solar because of the scare of rising electricity cost even though I can barely afford it. I ultimately realized that the NSW government past and present really don’t know what they are doing. I just spoke with clean energy council and they said it is completely up to the private retailers and they can change the rules to suit them. So does it really make sense spending several K’s on such a flaky system? And then there are these people who want to force a carbon tax for what?
DrBob127,
“Home loan fall points to housing weakness”
I noticed this paragraph in that article:
A brighter spot in the figures was a rise in the amount of finance taken out by housing investors, which lifted 2.1 per cent.
I liked Malaya’s comment. The ponds at $640k is way over the justifyable (and affordable) price level. I had a house in the area that I sold last week because I’d rather use 6.5% no risk cash rate and rent a larger place instead.
Definately agree with your comment about rates. Don’t forget electricity: we just got a bill for $650 for 2 months. Energy and food prices are up, and that’s why the government is suggesting that the national income is up and “australians are getting wealthier”.
The fact is you are right – it is getting more and more expensive to live.
I made a fun YouTube video to explain what is actually happening with the “wealth increase” and what the government is doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abrXVTjfHHY
Whilst I am not as radical as Steve Keen, and do not pitch the property collapse as Chris Kayce (who then tells you to by micro-cap mining stocks), I have also analysed the debt issues, risks and default possibilities and published a book called “Why you need a Financial Adviser”
http://goo.gl/ibTc8
Read it and espcially look at pages 44-57. I think Steve will love that too! Your adviser may not be telling you this either because they are purely sales-people or they merely do not comprehend.
So I agree with Steve on not all but rather many issues. Let me know if you liked the resource.
Greg
http://inkom.com.au