
Steve Keen’s Debtwatch No. 36 July 2009
It’s the Deleveraging, Stupid
Gentleman, you have come sixty days too late. The depression is over. – Herbert Hoover, responding to a delegation requesting a public works program to help speed the recovery, June 1930
“The past may not repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme” Mark Twain
In the last six months, the phrase “Green Shoots of Recovery” has entered the economic lexicon. It appeared to some observers that the global recession was coming to an end, while Australia itself was likely to barely feel its impact.
I would be as pleased as anyone if these “green shoots” were true harbingers of a genuine end to the economic downturn–not because I would enjoy being wrong for the sake of it, but because my expectations for the future are so bad that I’d prefer to see them not come to pass.
Unfortunately, on current data I expect that “green” is a better description of the knowledge level of those making the optimistic predictions, than of the colour of any budding economic recovery.
Of course, it could be argued to the contrary that many of those making such optimistic forecasts are highly trained professional economists, and not merely market commentators who migh have a vested interest in putting a positive spin on the news. This is true–but far from being a reason to trust these forecasts, it is yet another reason to be sceptical of them.
Almost every holder of a PhD in economics who works for a formal economic body like the Treasury, the RBA or the OECD has been deeply schooled in “neoclassical” economics, often without knowing that there is any other way of thinking about how the economy functions. They think they are simply “economists”, and anyone who objects to their analysis or models must be uneducated about economic theory.
In contrast, virtually all University Departments of Economics contain at least one economist who rejects neoclassical economics, and instead subscribes to a rival school–like Austrian, Marxian, Post Keynesian, or Evolutionary Economics.
These contrarian academic economists often disagree amongst themselves, sometimes vehemently–you couldn’t get two more opposed points of view than Austrian and Marxian economics, for example–but they tend to be united in regarding neoclassical economic theory as pompous drivel.
There are probably many reasons for this dichotomy between University economics departments which almost always have a handful of dissidents, and official economics bodies like the OECD and Treasury that are almost exclusively staffed by neoclassical economists. But I suspect the main reason is tenure: universities offer it, while formal economic advisory bodies don’t.
As a result, academic economists who “turn feral” and reject neoclassical economics can still teach and publish and hang on to their jobs, even if their neoclassical Department Heads wish they would go away. OECD and Treasury economists who do the same thing probably find their employment coming to an end–because they don’t have tenure.
So anything published by a formal economic body like the OECD will be the product of a neoclassical economic model–and therefore, in my opinion and that of a sizable minority of academic economists, drivel (there was one exception–the Bank of International Settlements [http://www.bis.org] while Bill White [http://www.bis.org/about/biowrw.htm], a supporter of Hyman Minsky’s “Financial Instability Hypothesis”, was its its Economic Adviser).
Of course, disputes between academic economists don’t matter in the real world, and most newspapers report the announcements of bodies like the OECD as statements of wisdom about the future–until, that is, a crisis like the Global Financial Crisis makes a mockery of the OECD’s neoclassical fantasies.
And what a mockery. This was the OECD’s forecast for the world economy in June 2007:
EDITORIAL: ACHIEVING FURTHER REBALANCING
In its Economic Outlook last Autumn, the OECD took the view that the US slowdown was not heralding a period of worldwide economic weakness, unlike, for instance, in 2001. Rather, a “ smooth” rebalancing was to be expected, with Europe taking over the baton from the United States in driving OECD growth.
Recent developments have broadly confirmed this prognosis. Indeed, the current economic situation is in many ways better than what we have experienced in years. Against that background, we have stuck to the rebalancing scenario. Our central forecast remains indeed quite benign: a soft landing in the United States, a strong and sustained recovery in Europe, a solid trajectory in Japan and buoyant activity in China and India. In line with recent trends, sustained growth in OECD economies would be underpinned by strong job creation and falling unemployment. (OECD Economic Outlook, Volume 2007/1, No. 81, June 2007, p. 7)
Yeah, right. Instead the global economy was already well into the greatest economic crisis of the last 60 years. The next two years tore the OECD’s 2007 forecasts to shreds.
One might hope for some soul searching as a result of this–and hopefully some is occurring behind closed doors. But in a clear sign that the OECD hopes to see “Business as usual” restored in its modelling approach as well as the actual economy, its current Economic Outlook discusses the process of recovery from an economic crisis that it completely failed to foresee:
EDITORIAL: NEARING THE BOTTOM?
OECD activity now looks to be approaching its nadir, following the deepest decline in post-war history. The ensuing recovery is likely to be both weak and fragile for some time. And the negative economic and social consequences of the crisis will be long-lasting. Yet, it could have been worse. Thanks to a strong economic policy effort an even darker scenario seems to have been avoided. But this is no reason for complacency; the need for determined policy action remains across a wide field of policies…
In summary, it looks as if the worst scenario has been avoided and that OECD economies are now nearing the bottom. Even if the subsequent recovery may be slow such an outcome is a major achievement of economic policy. But this is no time to relax — ensuring that the recovery stays on track and leads towards a long-term sustainable growth path will call for major policy efforts going forward. (OECD Economic Outlook, Volume 2007/1, No. 81, June 2009, pp. 5 & 7)
With its utter failure to see this crisis coming, why does anyone still take the OECD seriously? Probably for the same reason that people still generally obeyed the Captain of the Titanic after it had struck the iceberg: authority counts for a lot in a crisis, even if the person in authority actually caused it.
But it’s also because it takes repeated failures before someone who asserts authority is rejected–one failure alone won’t do. So rather like Napoleon in exile in Elba, the OECD is still taken seriously by economic commentators–as with Peter Martin’s report (“Late in, early out of the downturn”, SMH June 24th 2009):
AUSTRALIA is set to soar out of its economic downturn sooner and more sharply than forecast in the budget, according to forecasts from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development understood to have the backing of the Australian Treasury.
The OECD says the local economy should shrink 0.3 per cent this year, less than any other OECD economy and far less than the contraction of 1 per cent that underlies the forecasts in the May budget.
Next year the economy should roar back 2.4 per cent, also above budget forecasts and more than any other OECD economy apart from those recovering from collapse in 2009.
The Treasurer, Wayne Swan, greeted the forecasts released overnight in Paris as evidence Australia was “outperforming every other advanced economy in the face of the recession”.
The forecasts show Australia’s unemployment rate reaching 7.9 per cent late next year rather than the 8.25 to 8.5 per cent range assumed in the budget.
A little scepticism in this report would have been appreciated, given the OECD’s track record–and if a political journalist had written the report, that might well have occurred. But it was written by an economics correspondent, and most of them have–like the OECD’s economists–been schooled only in neoclassical economics, and don’t know how flimsy the theory itself is (there are exceptions here, like Brian Tookey whose book Tumbling Dice is an excellent critique of neoclassical economics). So we get a report like this trumpeting good times and green shoots, with no irony (Peter Martin was far from the only one to present the OECD’s views without any scepticism–see also “Earth-destroying bomb defused – just” by Michael Pascoe [http://business.smh.com.au/business/earthdestroying-bomb-defused--just-20090625-cxj7.html] or Glenn Dyer at Crikey “That’ s no green shoot, that’ s Australia in full bloom: OECD” [http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/25/thats-no-green-shoot-thats-australia-in-full-bloom-oecd/]).
Clearly it will take a few more economic failures before the OECD faces its Waterloo.
To be fair, official economic bodies and their uncritical fans were not the only source of “green shoot” euphoria. A large part of this feeling that the worst was over also came from the global experience of a recovery in stock markets from their recent lows. In addition, Australia had a near unique dose of greenery when unemployment remained remarkably benign, and it avoided the popular definition of a recession by recording growth in real GDP in the March 2009 quarter (real GDP rose by 0.4%, having fallen by 0.5% in the preceding quarter).
Let’s look first at the Stock Market.
The Dow has indeed had an impressive rally, from the low of 6547 on March 9 to the peak of 8799 on June 12–a rise of 34% in under a quarter of a year. This has led to many of the usual suspects proclaiming that the bear market is over, and a new rally is underway. Comparisons with 1929 are, of course, unjustified…
On closer inspection, reports of the death of the bear market are somewhat exaggerated.
Firstly, though the index has rallied by 34% from its low, it is still down 40% from the all time peak of October 2007.
Secondly, rallies like this came and went ad nauseam in the early 1930s, until the market hit rock bottom at 41.22 points on July 8th 1932–89% below the September 3rd 1929 peak of 381.17.
The biggest such rally occurred very soon after The Crash in 1929, starting on November 13th 1929 when the market was down 48% from its September peak. It then rose almost 50% from its low in under 6 months–and it was this recovery that inspired Hoover’s Oval Office gaffe.
But the market had only recovered half of what it had lost when the rally ran out of steam–a 50% fall followed by a 50% recovery still leaves you 25% below where you started from–and the inexorable slide of the Great Depression dragged the market down with it.
This current rally took a lot longer to start than its 1929 cousin, though it began from a comparable bottom (55% below the peak versus 48% below it in 1929), and it still has to go on for much longer and drive the market much higher to match its antecedent–let alone to proclaim the 2007 Bear Market is over (note also that Eichengreen and O’ Rourke, using global data, argue that the current decline is far worse than in the Great Depression, with global markets down 50% on average 12 months after the crisis versus just 10% down after 1929–see Figure 2 in http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3421).
Meanwhile, in the Real World…
Though the stock market was providing some good cheer in the USA (at least until last week), the real economy continued to disappoint. To get an idea of just how bad the downturn has been, and how little inkling of it that conventional economists had, consider the Economic Report of the President, prepared by the US President’s Council of Economic Advisers (http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/cea/]), in 2008 (http://www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/2008/2008_erp.pdf) and 2009 (http://www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/2009/2009_erp.pdf).
The 2008 Report made the following forecasts–note in particular the “forecast” that unemployment would be below 5 percent between 2008 and 2013.
The 2009 Report, submitted to Congress and the incoming President in January of this year, made a mockery of the 2008 Report but still drastically underestimated the severity of the downturn: it forecast that unemployment would peak at 7.7% in 2009, growth would remain positive for the next five years.
Despite the frequency with which numerous economists who failed to anticipate the Global Financial Crisis continue to report sightings of “green shoots of recovery”, the actual economic data continued to be grimmer than even their most pessimistic revised forecasts.
The clearest evidence here is that the Federal Reserve’s “stress tests” for its Supervisory Capital Assessment Program assumed that even under an adverse scenario, unemployment would be below 9 percent by mid-2009. It is currently 9.4 percent (see http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSgc/Siv54tjgl3I/AAAAAAAAGPo/7HhtUF998Q0/s400/unemployment+projections.png):
The tapering process that is built into neoclassical economic forecasts (see http://www.phil.frb.org/research-and-data/real-time-center/survey-of-professional-forecasters/2009/survq209.cfm) is not evident in the data to date.
Deleveraging and Economic Breakdown
The reason that most economists continue to underestimate this downturn is because (a) the downturn is being driven by deleveraging from literally unprecedented levels of private debt, and (b) the neoclassical theory of economics, which dominates academic and market economics alike, ignores the role of private debt in the economy.
The reason that I anticipated this crisis four years ago is that I reject the mainstream “neoclassical” approach to economics, and instead analyse the economy from the perspective of Hyman Minsky’s “Financial Instability Hypothesis”, in which private debt plays a crucial role. In our credit-driven economy, demand is the sum of GDP plus the change in debt. If debt is low relative to GDP, then its contribution to demand is relatively unimportant; but if debt becomes large relative to demand, then changes in debt can become THE determinant of aggregate demand, and hence of unemployment.
That is manifestly the case in America today. Under the stewardship of neoclassical economics in the personas of Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke, the growth in private debt has not merely been ignored but has actively been encouraged, in the dangerously naive belief that the private sector is being “rational” when it borrows.
This apparent indictment of the private sector as therefore “irrational” is in fact really an indictment of neoclassical economics for abuse of language. What neoclassical theory means by the word “rational” is “able to correctly anticipate the future”–which is the definition, not of rationality, but of prophecy.
There is nothing “irrational” about being unable to predict the future–it is fundamentally uncertain, while modern economic theory hides from this reality just as Keynes’s contemporary economic rivals did in the 1930s when he wrote that:
I accuse the classical economic theory of being itself one of these pretty, polite techniques which tries to deal with the present by abstracting from the fact that we know very little about the future. (Keynes, “The General Theory of Employment”, Quarterly Journal of Economics 1937)
Instead, in the uncertain world in which we live, the private sector necessarily speculates about the future–and some of those speculations will be wrong. The role of regulation and government economic policy should be to confine those speculations, as much as is possible, to productive pursuits rather than gambles about the future path of asset prices–a pasttime that has always in the past led to Ponzi asset bubbles.
This time, with government policy driven by neoclassical economics and its deluded attitudes towards the future, policy has actually encouraged the private sector to borrow to indulge in two giant Ponzi Schemes–the stock market and (belatedly) the housing market. It has gambled with borrowed money that share and house prices would always rise faster than consumer prices.
That gamble worked for some decades, but it then failed–in 1987-89. Had the Greenspan Fed not intervened then to “rescue” Wall Street, there is every possibility that the US would have experienced a mild Depression then–mild because the level of debt was lower then that at the time of the Great Depression (165% in 1989 versus 175% in 1929), and crucially because the rate of inflation then was high (5% in 1989 versus 0.5% in 1929).
The lower level of debt would have meant that less deleveraging would have been required to return to a predominantly income-financed economy in 1989 than was required in the 1930s, while high inflation would have meant a lower likelihood of deflation during the Depression itself, and possibly that inflation alone could have eroded the debt burden. It still would not have been pretty–certainly it would have been worse than the 1983 recession, when unemployment as it is currently defined peaked at 10.8 percent.
But what we face now will be far worse, because deleveraging from the now unprecedented debt level of almost 300% of GDP will drive America into a Depression that could easily be deeper than that of the 1930s.
This is already becoming apparent in the data, as economic historians Barry Eichengreen and Kevin O’ Rourke have pointed out (see “A Tale of Two Depressions” at http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3421):
To sum up, globally we are tracking or doing even worse than the Great Depression, whether the metric is industrial production, exports or equity valuations. Focusing on the US causes one to minimise this alarming fact. The “ Great Recession” label may turn out to be too optimistic. This is a Depression-sized event.
The comparison of unemployment rates (which Eichengreen and O’ Rourke didn’t make) bear this out: using the current OECD definition of unemployment, this downturn is well ahead of the 1979 recession even though unemployment started from a lower level; and using the much broader U-6 definition (see www.bls.gov; http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm), which is more strictly comparable to the NBER definition used during the Great Depression, unemployment now is as bad as at the same stage of the Great Depression, and increasing as rapidly.
Deleveraging is already extreme: the most recent flow of funds data shows that private debt is falling rapidly and therefore subtracting from aggregate demand rather than adding to it. As noted in earlier Debtwatch Reports, in the modern debt-dependent economy, changes in the demand financed by changes in private debt are strongly negatively correlated with the unemployment: when debt’s contribution to demand falls, unemployment rises.
The turnaround in debt growth in the USA is unprecedented in the post-WWII period. Even during the 1980s and 1990s recessions, debt continued to grow both in nominal terms and as a percentage of GDP. Now debt is falling at arate of almost US$2 Trillion a year (which equates to 14 percent of GDP).
This is why the crisis exists, is so much worse than the official economic forecasters expected, and will continue and be much deeper than they currently believe: the crisis is being driven by deleveraging, and neoclassical economists do not even include private debt in their models.
As noted in earlier Debtwatch Reports, there is a very strong link between the rate of growth of debt and unemployment: when debt grows more quickly, unemployment falls; when debt grows slowly or falls, unemployment rises.
This is not because debt is a good thing, but because our economies have become so debt-dependent that changes in debt now have a far stronger influence on economic activity than do changes in GDP.
The US Government is attempting to “pump-prime” its way out of trouble by public-debt-financed deficit spending, which raises three further issues:
this so-called Keynesian remedy can work when private debt levels are relatively low, and government policy to attenuate private speculation is strictly adhered to (see my 1995 paper Finance and Economic Breakdown);
however, in our rampantly speculative economies, this policy has only worked when it has re-started the private debt binge, resulting in rising debt levels over time;
this can’t happen this time around, because all sectors of the private economy–businesses both real and financial, and households–are already debt-saturated. There is no “greenfields” group to lend to, as was possible in 1990 when household debt was a “mere” 60% of GDP, and the derivatives market in finance had yet to explode; and finally
the scale of the private debt bubble os just too big to be countered by substituting public debt for private debt.
This last point is evident in the data. Even though the US government has thrown the proverbial kitchen sink at government spending, the increase in public debt (which adds to aggregate demand) is more than counteracted by private sector deleveraging (which subtracts from aggregate demand):
Total US Debt is therefore falling. Though in the long run this is a good thing–we must return to a non-debt-dependent economy and once we have gotten there, stay there–the transition will be as pleasant as Cold Turkey is for a heroin addict.
“Gentleman, you have come sixty days too late. The depression is over.” - Herbert Hoover, responding to a delegation requesting a public works program to help speed the recovery, June 1930
“The past may not repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme.” Mark Twain
In the last six months, the phrase “Green Shoots of Recovery” has entered the economic lexicon. It appeared to some observers that the global recession was coming to an end, while Australia itself was likely to barely feel its impact.
I would be as pleased as anyone if these “green shoots” were true harbingers of a genuine end to the economic downturn–not because I would enjoy being wrong for the sake of it, but because my expectations for the future are so bad that I’d prefer to see them not come to pass.
Unfortunately, on current data I expect that “green” is a better description of the knowledge level of those making the optimistic predictions, than of the colour of any budding economic recovery.
Of course, it could be argued to the contrary that many of those making such optimistic forecasts are highly trained professional economists, and not merely market commentators who migh have a vested interest in putting a positive spin on the news.
This is true–but far from being a reason to trust these forecasts, it is yet another reason to be sceptical of them.
Almost every holder of a PhD in economics who works for a formal economic body like the Treasury, the RBA or the OECD has been deeply schooled in “neoclassical” economics, often without knowing that there is any other way of thinking about how the economy functions. They think they are simply “economists”, and anyone who objects to their analysis or models must be uneducated about economic theory.
In contrast, virtually all University Departments of Economics contain at least one economist who rejects neoclassical economics, and instead subscribes to a rival school–like Austrian, Marxian, Post Keynesian, or Evolutionary Economics.
These contrarian academic economists often disagree amongst themselves, sometimes vehemently–you couldn’t get two more opposed points of view than Austrian and Marxian economics, for example–but they tend to be united in regarding neoclassical economic theory as pompous drivel.
There are probably many reasons for this dichotomy between University economics departments which almost always have a handful of dissidents, and official economics bodies like the OECD and Treasury that are almost exclusively staffed by neoclassical economists. But I suspect the main reason is tenure: universities offer it, while formal economic advisory bodies don’t.
As a result, academic economists who “turn feral” and reject neoclassical economics can still teach and publish and hang on to their jobs, even if their neoclassical Department Heads wish they would go away. OECD and Treasury economists who do the same thing probably find their employment coming to an end–because they don’t have tenure.
So anything published by a formal economic body like the OECD will be the product of a neoclassical economic model–and therefore, in my opinion and that of a sizable minority of academic economists, drivel (there was one exception–the Bank of International Settlements while Bill White, a supporter of Hyman Minsky’s “Financial Instability Hypothesis“, was its its Economic Adviser).
Of course, disputes between academic economists don’t matter in the real world, and most newspapers report the announcements of bodies like the OECD as statements of wisdom about the future–until, that is, a crisis like the Global Financial Crisis makes a mockery of the OECD’s neoclassical fantasies.
And what a mockery. This was the OECD’s forecast for the world economy in June 2007:
EDITORIAL: ACHIEVING FURTHER REBALANCING
“In its Economic Outlook last Autumn, the OECD took the view that the US slowdown was not heralding a period of worldwide economic weakness, unlike, for instance, in 2001. Rather, a “ smooth” rebalancing was to be expected, with Europe taking over the baton from the United States in driving OECD growth.”
“Recent developments have broadly confirmed this prognosis. Indeed, the current economic situation is in many ways better than what we have experienced in years. Against that background, we have stuck to the rebalancing scenario. Our central forecast remains indeed quite benign: a soft landing in the United States, a strong and sustained recovery in Europe, a solid trajectory in Japan and buoyant activity in China and India. In line with recent trends, sustained growth in OECD economies would be underpinned by strong job creation and falling unemployment.” (OECD Economic Outlook, Volume 2007/1, No. 81, June 2007, p. 7)
Yeah, right. Instead the global economy was already well into the greatest economic crisis of the last 60 years. The next two years tore the OECD’s 2007 forecasts to shreds.
One might hope for some soul searching as a result of this–and hopefully some is occurring behind closed doors. But in a clear sign that the OECD hopes to see “Business as usual” restored in its modelling approach as well as the actual economy, its current Economic Outlook discusses the process of recovery from an economic crisis that it completely failed to foresee:
EDITORIAL: NEARING THE BOTTOM?
“OECD activity now looks to be approaching its nadir, following the deepest decline in post-war history. The ensuing recovery is likely to be both weak and fragile for some time. And the negative economic and social consequences of the crisis will be long-lasting. Yet, it could have been worse. Thanks to a strong economic policy effort an even darker scenario seems to have been avoided. But this is no reason for complacency; the need for determined policy action remains across a wide field of policies…”
“In summary, it looks as if the worst scenario has been avoided and that OECD economies are now nearing the bottom. Even if the subsequent recovery may be slow such an outcome is a major achievement of economic policy. But this is no time to relax — ensuring that the recovery stays on track and leads towards a long-term sustainable growth path will call for major policy efforts going forward.” (OECD Economic Outlook, Volume 2007/1, No. 81, June 2009, pp. 5 & 7)
With its utter failure to see this crisis coming, why does anyone still take the OECD seriously? Probably for the same reason that people still generally obeyed the Captain of the Titanic after it had struck the iceberg: authority counts for a lot in a crisis, even if the person in authority actually caused it.
But it’s also because it takes repeated failures before someone who asserts authority is rejected–one failure alone won’t do. So rather like Napoleon in exile in Elba, the OECD is still taken seriously by economic commentators–as with Peter Martin’s report (“Australia’s downturn to be shorter than expected“, The Age June 25th 2009):
“AUSTRALIA is set to soar out of its economic downturn sooner and more sharply than forecast in the budget, according to forecasts from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development understood to have the backing of the Australian Treasury.
The OECD says the local economy should shrink 0.3 per cent this year, less than any other OECD economy and far less than the contraction of 1 per cent that underlies the forecasts in the May budget.
Next year the economy should roar back 2.4 per cent, also above budget forecasts and more than any other OECD economy apart from those recovering from collapse in 2009.
The Treasurer, Wayne Swan, greeted the forecasts released overnight in Paris as evidence Australia was “outperforming every other advanced economy in the face of the recession”.
The forecasts show Australia’s unemployment rate reaching 7.9 per cent late next year rather than the 8.25 to 8.5 per cent range assumed in the budget.”
A little scepticism in this report would have been appreciated, given the OECD’s track record–and if a political journalist had written the report, that might well have occurred. But it was written by an economics correspondent, and most of them have–like the OECD’s economists–been schooled only in neoclassical economics, and don’t know how flimsy the theory itself is (there are exceptions here, like Brian Tookey whose book Tumbling Dice is an excellent critique of neoclassical economics). So we get a report like this trumpeting good times and green shoots, with no irony (Peter Martin was far from the only one to present the OECD’s views without any scepticism–see also “Earth-destroying bomb defused – just” by Michael Pascoe or Glenn Dyer at Crikey “That’ s no green shoot, that’ s Australia in full bloom: OECD“).
Clearly it will take a few more predictive and policy failures before economic journalists realise that with the global financial crisis, neoclassical economics–and hence the OECD–is facing its intellectual Waterloo.
To be fair, official economic bodies and their uncritical fans were not the only source of “green shoot” euphoria. A large part of this feeling that the worst was over also came from the global experience of a recovery in stock markets from their recent lows.
The Dow has indeed had an impressive rally, from the low of 6547 on March 9 to the peak of 8799 on June 12–a rise of 34% in under a quarter of a year. This has led to many of the usual suspects proclaiming that the bear market is over, and a new rally is underway. Comparisons with 1929 are, of course, unjustified…

On closer inspection, reports of the death of the bear market are somewhat exaggerated.

Firstly, though the index has rallied by 34% from its low, it is still down 40% from the all time peak of October 2007.

Secondly, rallies like this came and went ad nauseam in the early 1930s, until the market hit rock bottom at 41.22 points on July 8th 1932–89% below the September 3rd 1929 peak of 381.17.
The biggest such rally occurred very soon after The Crash in 1929, starting on November 13th 1929 when the market was down 48% from its September peak. It then rose almost 50% from its low in under 6 months–and it was this recovery that inspired Hoover’s Oval Office gaffe.

But the market had only recovered half of what it had lost when the rally ran out of steam–a 50% fall followed by a 50% recovery still leaves you 25% below where you started from–and the inexorable slide of the Great Depression dragged the market down with it.
This current rally took a lot longer to start than its 1929 cousin, though it began from a comparable bottom (55% below the peak versus 48% below it in 1929), and it still has to go on for much longer and drive the market much higher to match its antecedent–let alone to proclaim the 2007 Bear Market is over (note also that Eichengreen and O’Rourke, using global data, argue that the current decline is far worse than in the Great Depression, with global markets down 50% on average 12 months after the crisis versus just 10% down after 1929–see Figure 2 here).
Meanwhile, in the Real World…
Though the stock market was providing some good cheer in the USA (at least until last week), the real economy continued to disappoint. To get an idea of just how bad the downturn has been, and how little inkling of it that conventional economists had, consider the Economic Report of the President, prepared by the US President’s Council of Economic Advisers, in 2008 and 2009.
The 2008 Report made the following forecasts–note in particular the “forecast” that unemployment would be below 5 percent between 2008 and 2013.

The 2009 Report, submitted to Congress and the incoming President in January of this year, made a mockery of the 2008 Report but still drastically underestimated the severity of the downturn: it forecast that unemployment would peak at 7.7% in 2009, growth would remain positive for the next five years.

Despite the frequency with which numerous economists who failed to anticipate the Global Financial Crisis continue to report sightings of “green shoots of recovery”, the actual economic data continued to be grimmer than even their most pessimistic revised forecasts.
The clearest evidence here is that the Federal Reserve’s “stress tests” for its Supervisory Capital Assessment Program assumed that even under an adverse scenario, unemployment would be below 9 percent by mid-2009. It is currently 9.4 percent. The tapering process that is built into neoclassical economic forecasts is not evident in the data to date.
Deleveraging and Economic Breakdown
The reason that most economists continue to underestimate this downturn is because (a) the downturn is being driven by deleveraging from literally unprecedented levels of private debt, and (b) the neoclassical theory of economics, which dominates academic and market economics alike, ignores the role of private debt in the economy.
The reason that I anticipated this crisis four years ago is that I reject the mainstream “neoclassical” approach to economics, and instead analyse the economy from the perspective of Hyman Minsky’s “Financial Instability Hypothesis”, in which private debt plays a crucial role. In our credit-driven economy, demand is the sum of GDP plus the change in debt. If debt is low relative to GDP, then its contribution to demand is relatively unimportant; but if debt becomes large relative to demand, then changes in debt can become THE determinant of aggregate demand, and hence of unemployment.
That is manifestly the case in America today. Under the stewardship of neoclassical economics in the personas of Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke, the growth in private debt has not merely been ignored but has actively been encouraged, in the dangerously naive belief that the private sector is being “rational” when it borrows.
This apparent indictment of the private sector as therefore “irrational” is in fact really an indictment of neoclassical economics for abuse of language. What neoclassical theory means by the word “rational” is “able to correctly anticipate the future”–which is the definition, not of rationality, but of prophecy.
There is nothing “irrational” about being unable to predict the future–it is fundamentally uncertain, while modern economic theory hides from this reality just as Keynes’s contemporary economic rivals did in the 1930s when he wrote that:
“I accuse the classical economic theory of being itself one of these pretty, polite techniques which tries to deal with the present by abstracting from the fact that we know very little about the future.” (Keynes, “The General Theory of Employment”, Quarterly Journal of Economics 1937)
Instead, in the uncertain world in which we live, the private sector necessarily speculates about the future–and some of those speculations will be wrong. The role of regulation and government economic policy should be to confine those speculations, as much as is possible, to productive pursuits rather than gambles about the future path of asset prices–a pasttime that has always in the past led to Ponzi asset bubbles.
This time, with government policy driven by neoclassical economics and its deluded attitudes towards the future, policy has actually encouraged the private sector to borrow to indulge in two giant Ponzi Schemes–the stock market and (belatedly) the housing market. It has gambled with borrowed money that share and house prices would always rise faster than consumer prices.
That gamble worked for some decades, but it then failed–in 1987-89. Had the Greenspan Fed not intervened then to “rescue” Wall Street, there is every possibility that the US would have experienced a mild Depression then–mild because the level of debt was lower then that at the time of the Great Depression (165% in 1989 versus 175% in 1929), and crucially because the rate of inflation then was high (5% in 1989 versus 0.5% in 1929).

The lower level of debt would have meant that less deleveraging would have been required to return to a predominantly income-financed economy in 1989 than was required in the 1930s, while high inflation would have meant a lower likelihood of deflation during the Depression itself, and possibly that inflation alone could have eroded the debt burden. It still would not have been pretty–certainly it would have been worse than the 1983 recession, when unemployment as it is currently defined peaked at 10.8 percent.

But what we face now will be far worse, because deleveraging from the now unprecedented debt level of almost 300% of GDP will drive America into a Depression that could easily be deeper than that of the 1930s.
This is already becoming apparent in the data, as economic historians Barry Eichengreen and Kevin O’ Rourke point out in “A Tale of Two Depressions“:
“To sum up, globally we are tracking or doing even worse than the Great Depression, whether the metric is industrial production, exports or equity valuations. Focusing on the US causes one to minimise this alarming fact. The “ Great Recession” label may turn out to be too optimistic. This is a Depression-sized event.”
The comparison of unemployment rates (which Eichengreen and O’ Rourke didn’t make) bear this out: using the current OECD definition of unemployment, this downturn is well ahead of the 1979 recession even though unemployment started from a lower level; and using the much broader U-6 definition, which is more strictly comparable to the NBER definition used during the Great Depression, unemployment now is as bad as at the same stage of the Great Depression, and increasing as rapidly.

Deleveraging is already extreme: the most recent flow of funds data shows that private debt is falling rapidly and therefore subtracting from aggregate demand rather than adding to it. As noted in earlier Debtwatch Reports, in the modern debt-dependent economy, changes in the demand financed by changes in private debt are strongly negatively correlated with the unemployment: when debt’s contribution to demand falls, unemployment rises.
The turnaround in debt growth in the USA is unprecedented in the post-WWII period. Even during the 1980s and 1990s recessions, debt continued to grow both in nominal terms and as a percentage of GDP. Now debt is falling at arate of almost US$2 Trillion a year (which equates to 14 percent of GDP).

This is why the crisis exists, is so much worse than the official economic forecasters expected, and will continue and be much deeper than they currently believe: the crisis is being driven by deleveraging, and neoclassical economists do not even include private debt in their models.
As noted in earlier Debtwatch Reports, there is a very strong link between the rate of growth of debt and unemployment: when debt grows more quickly, unemployment falls; when debt grows slowly or falls, unemployment rises.

This is not because debt is a good thing, but because our economies have become so debt-dependent that changes in debt now have a far stronger influence on economic activity than do changes in GDP.
The US Government is attempting to “pump-prime” its way out of trouble by public-debt-financed deficit spending, which raises 4 further issues:
- this so-called Keynesian remedy can work when private debt levels are relatively low, and government policy to attenuate private speculation is strictly adhered to (see my 1995 paper Finance and Economic Breakdown);
- however, in our rampantly speculative economies, this policy has only worked when it has re-started the private debt binge, resulting in rising debt levels over time;
- this can’t happen this time around, because all sectors of the private economy–businesses both real and financial, and households–are already debt-saturated. There is no “greenfields” group to lend to, as was possible in 1990 when household debt was a “mere” 60% of GDP, and the derivatives market in finance had yet to explode; and finally
- the scale of the private debt bubble is just too big to be countered by substituting public debt for private debt.
This last point is evident in the data. Even though the US government has thrown the proverbial kitchen sink at government spending, the increase in public debt (which adds to aggregate demand) is more than counteracted by private sector deleveraging (which subtracts from aggregate demand):

Total US Debt is therefore falling. Though in the long run this is a good thing–we must return to a non-debt-dependent economy and once we have gotten there, stay there–the transition will be as pleasant as Cold Turkey is for a heroin addict.


Philip,
I fundamentally agree with your parallel universe theory with one exception. Business cares a whole lot about any method of predicting the future and the best way to make money from it. While they are very unlikely to pay heed to any neoclassical rubbish, it’s almost certain that many perform more realistic modelling behind closed doors.
Unfortunately for the AG universe, the BB universe modelling includes the AG universe. This means that they probably took the risks they did not because they thought it was sustainable but because they knew that it didn’t matter. They had modelled the likely reaction of the AG universe and realise that the way they could maximise profits was to take this unsustainable path then demand bailouts after the fact.
More than just modelling, the BB universe has various mechanisms at its disposal to influence the reaction of the AG sector. The most obvious of these is government lobbyists. Further is the almost certain, but rarely proven, direct corruption.
Sadly for the rest of us, it appears the the combination of modelling and influence by the BB universe has gone exactly to (their) plan.
Dr. Keen, you may (or may not) appreciate this thread at the forums of Americans’ primary news source, in which I tried to clue them in on what had gone so horribly wrong.
http://forum.thedailyshow.com/tds/board/message?board.id=economy&thread.id=3931
Forgot to paste in the link.
Hi Dave2882,
I love Jon Stewart’s work–his comments on and interview with Kramer were brilliant as well as side-splittingly funny. Thanks for promoting my analysis there.
Interesting article in “The Australian” today by John Stone John Stone is a former deputy secretary (1971-79) and secretary (1979-84) to the Treasury.) :
“Recession they won’t admit is happening”
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25769692-7583,00.html
mahaish,
Good point, though I should’ve been more clear. Industry will use modeling in such a way to ensure that it will benefit themselves. If they can construct dodgy derivative models which will benefit financial institutions, then they will do so.
Otherwise, industry has no real incentive to model economic and financial systems in an empirically correct way like Steve has done – because once this is done, it becomes obvious that “free” markets, “deregulation” (public subsidies without strings attached), “competition” is not what it is originally thought to be.
A while ago there was a discussion on the blog about China and I remember the feeling amongst the majority was that China would do this or that and come out on top of the US to dominate the economic world. At the time everyone making the prediction that China would come out on top was making the assumption that China had turned the corner and although it was technically still ‘communist’ that their economy was ‘free market’ and that this freedom would continue.
I expressed my doubts about this and was surprised this week to see little mention of the ‘Stern Hu affair’ on the blog.
Alan Kohler wrote the following piece on the business ramifications of the affair.
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Chinese-business-in-chains-pd20090713-TVT2N?OpenDocument&src=kgb
I believe this plus the problems in Urumqi are just the beginning of Beijing cracking down and their recent progressive policy’s reversing, the communists are terrified of losing power and believe they have already given too many freedoms to the people there.
I would advise anyone with big bets on China dominating in the near future having a close look at whether they will live up to expectation, because even if there was a revolution today it would be at least 10 years of rebuilding before they will be ready for a crack at the title, and if it doesn’t occur and policy follows what the communist party is currently doing then they will be even further behind!!!
I’ve found a good article about the religiosity of neoclassical economic theory:
“Praying for a revolution in economics” http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/jul/11/economics-greenspan-neoclassical
Regarding Australian property prices, I’ve contacted the ABS and they have said the latest data (House Price Indexes: Eight Capital Cities) for 2009 Q2 will be released on 04/08/2009. I think we will see another national decline of prices, though the FHOG and stimulus packages are no doubt delaying the inevitable.
On China, a couple of my people have just come back from a fairly extensive trip around central China as far north as Beijin.
We employ a couple of people in China and these people are very informative as to the state of things.
The situation appears as one would expect. During the great ‘export’ days, industries employed a lot of people making all sorts of products. Many of these jobs have been wiped out. The government stimulus is working in terms of GDP but the great expansion is in industrial products for building railways highways etc. These are large industries with a much lower labour requirement per dollar of output. So although expected GDP growth has been revised upward the effect on unemployment is not great. Unemployment is now a problem and discontent is likely to rise as time goes on. There is no social security in China.
In recent years many people have left the western and northern farming areas to move to the cities, particularly in the South East. Many of them sold farms etc. So now, not only are they unemployed but also have no home to return to.
I, for one, could never see how you took women from sewing T shirts in Southern China and turn them into bridge welders in Northern China!
China’s problems are complex that’s sure. I don’t find any of it comforting!
Hello Outback Oracle,
No social security in China is a little bit to short around the corner (I don’t know if that expression exists in English), there are all kinds of Social Security in China but they are not easy to find. As a member of the “basic income” community I am following the China situation on that and a report of our Chair, Eduardo Suplicy, may give some useful information about the evolution there.
http://www.basicincome.org/bien/pdf/Flash43.pdf (page 5)
The document seems to be protected from copying so I must refer to the whole document.
Paul
Hello Steve and Other’s,
I see Steve has referred to Irving Fisher’s explanation of why depression occurs (debt and Deflation).
Fisher’s solution to depression and Deflation is to reflate prices.
How is this achievable? Even if we print money and provide credit to bank to load out to customer’s, the fact is customers are not going to take loans out and hence this monetary easing will not get to public in any way and hence will not inflate prices.
The only thing you can do is to hand out money free to public to inflate prices. Providing credit to banks to loan out will not work. Am I correct with my assumptions.
UP AND AWAY,
Go and look at Iceland and see, how people do not want to take out loans, but prices are going higher.
You are mistaking inflation as being bubble inflation.The collapse of currency is what will cause higher prices in the worst economic conditions.
We are not going into deflation but instead a hyperinflationary depression.
Who cares if people want to borrow money, a paper currency crisis will trigger this not an economic event.
Hi Paul. Not sure if I get your point. (and no I don’t understand your expression
)
In the last 12 to 15 months there have been some critical advances in China. Labour costs increased about 32% over a period of 6 months last year. The main contributors were a provision for social security and health care. However these programnes are in the very early stages. Private health care is prohibitively expensive. The public care system as you can imagine is massively crowded etc.
So, maybe the view from the lofty portals of Government, and they are indeed lofty in China, is very different to what is actually happening at ordinary people level. It’s tough if you are out of work in a strange city.
There is also some difficulty with migratory workers and registration for benefits etc. The detail has escaped my mind. (as a lot does)
Cheers
Hi Outback Oracle,
I was afraid the expression was no good English
My native language is Dutch and I am living in Belgium. “To cut the corner a little short” is an expression used to indicate that what you are saying is maybe “the truth but not the whole truth”.
And of course, like everywhere there is corruption but it also indicates that there is a poverty relief program.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/world/asia/13iht-poverty.1.9172195.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2
“Ordinary people don’t get any real benefits from poverty alleviation programs,” said Li Guangyi, 35, a farmer who lives in the village of Zhangyoufang. “How could relief money get into our hands? It goes first toward relieving the local officials, who get rich on the tragedies of the nation.”
cheers
Paul
Hi elliotwave,
I am away at present and only able to post every now and then.
Please stop just telling us what will happen and tells us why. As I have asked before?
1. How can we get a currency crash/hyperinflation everywhere? Currencies are relative. Are you simply talking about the US, Oz or the UK etc?
2. Do you have a elliotwave count for gold that supports $2000? Or is your name ironic and you do not believe in Elliot theory?
3. If there is a currency crash, depression, crisis, won’t people that are holding gold have to sell too, so that they can live?
4. Will you hold gold forever or are you looking for the “right” time to sell?
Bullturnedbear
I recently saw a news clip interviewing a lady in Zimbabwe, and she said many folk were using gold for money. She was paying 5gm/day for basic food, which I find extraordinary expensive, so you are quit right, in times of trouble price inflation can hit gold too. At least in one particular town.
Greetings and best wishes to all (including those I diagree with
), and thanks Steve once again for an excellent article.
Been a way for a few weeks but have looked in from time to time.
An indication of how very quickly things can get ugly should unemployment in Australia get out of hand;
http://business.smh.com.au/business/jobless-fears-hit-home-20090714-djco.html
More than testament enough that we have far too much debt on household balance sheets. Known of course by our rapacious Govt hence their manic efforts for re-election by creating the biggest national debt in our history- for our own good!- just to keep the wheels on until next year.
If BHP is not confident about coal for China, then the outlook in China is not bright. Not only is there substantial production shut in, future expansions are being actively mothballed. Don’t let the fancy blurb fool you- all the mentioned projects in the article are on the shelf. They will be dusted off when, and only when, BHP can see demand coming back. The speculative raw material buying of Q1 and Q2 has now subsided, fueled as it was by China’s centrally controlled banks force feeding money into it’s economy. Doesn’t sound sustainable to me.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,25777800-36418,00.html
Mish has a good article worth reading: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/07/housing-update-how-far-to-bottom.html
The graph of Japanese property prices is quite funny.
Is a hyper inflationary depression coming?
Are the best investments gold, silver and agricultural commodities?
I’m in the deflation camp MarkL, as you can see from my Roving Cavaliers of Credit post. Other correspondents here have different opinions. I expect deflation for the same reason that Fisher expected (and experienced) it during the last Depression: distress selling by those in debt as they try to service that debt, and a collapse in demand as well.
Up And Away:
Here are the central bank methods for creating price inflation from the handbook of the Swedish Central Bank (riksbank):
1) lower rates (broken at 0%)
2) devalue currency against rest of world (not sure about this, would only inflate import prices perhaps, plus it can’t go on forever and can be stymied by competetive devaluation elsewhere)
3) inflation targetting – announce a new price target and have people believe you can make it happen – if people believe you you won’t even need to print any money. This is rather broken right now
4) forced debt-for-equity swap to remove debt from household and corporate balance sheets.
5) push nominal interest rates below 0 to force money out of savings accounts.
Seems to me that 1-3 are broken, so one of 4 or 5 (or both) will be tried at some point over the next year or two.
Steve,
Thanks to you and your site of great contributors I have read a lot of the rceommended reading Roving Cavaliers Minsky and Fisher. I am reading your book debunking Economics (not that I can understand most of the tech stuff – which is all of it)however it gives an insight into the complexities of the World economic problems and how the “blinker” effect has been applied by the neoclassical mainstream economists for years.
The one thing that is hard to understand though is that once one gets a grasp of the fundamentals of a debt bubble private and Govt that there is daily talk of “green shoots” V shape recovery and bottoming of the GFC.
I would have thought that the sheer amount of current private debt, the oncoming small business (largest employer in Aust)failures and liquidations (just in GST and tax payment failures alone) causing huge unemployment, the shredding of Public Servants when tax reciepts start to count again (soon I would expect) and the interest rates remaining low- by previous standards say around 7-8%.
The cost of living will be extremely high for the basics food, clothing howver commodities will deflate through lack of demand and housing more so the investment side – through sales trying to beat the deflated price catching up with the amoun owing.
I don’t think it will happen overnight, more like over a very long time -how long? perhaps long enough for our productivity to inbcrease enough to produce more than we consume-thus creating savings or investment which can be lent (deposit loans) rather than ponzi type Real estate re valuation loans based on a minor percentage of households -SOLD.
Thanks again you people for sharing with a layman your thoughts I hope I am getting some insight. I will stay attuned to learn more. I am not really a negative person just one that likes to live in a “real” world and adjust to it so I can live and laugh knowing my limits.
I think it will be an interesting next 6 months and beyond.
Elliottwave I tend to agree with bullturnedbear in that your chosen namesake is not what the newsletter is predicting and like a lot of modern thinkers I am beginning to think that gold will only go up because people think it should go up. That is fear not clever investment Gold has value through scarcity and transportability stops it being utilised.BESIDES WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE ALL CONVERTED OUR CASH TO GOLD? WOULD IT HOLD ITS VALUE? There I go being ignorant again.
I don’t think they’ve done it but moving rates to -0.25 has been seriously discussed in sweden. At this level you still might leave your money in the bank and accept the negative rate as an insurance premium rather than keep your cash under the matress, but I guess it not really going to have the desired effect at that level. Once you get people over the psychological barrier of accepting negative rates, who knows where it might go though.
Swedish repo rates are -0.25% as I understand the situation currently. That is not the same as a -ve rate offered to savers however.
Ultimately if savings can’t find anywhere to go banks will start charging to manage them. Everyone can’t go to mattress cash because there is so little cash as a percentage of overall currency, there would be none left in circulation in very short order. Likewise for gold.
My view is it would go into equities since few people are going to want to make loans where the principal will not all be returned . Note that the reason PEs have been so stonkingly high and have climbed relentlessly over the last two decades is because the cost of capital is falling seemingly without end. When you consider the huge amount of savings implied by an age-ing population, future PEs of 40x or more seem quite reasonable.
Hello Scepticus,
We demanded the National Bank here in Belgium how the conversion from “electronic money” on bank accounts to cash money worked.
And the answer was really very simple, the conversion is done on demand. So it is possible that there is a shortage on short term, when demand is volatile, but in the long run, as long there is money on accounts to convert, there is no shortage possible.
If you are asking your bank to convert money from your bank account to cash, the bank asks the same conversion to the National Bank who have “printing rights” (or minting rights)
Paul