As regular readers of this blog know, I argue that the dominant school of thought in economics, “Neoclassical economics”, is not only incapable of explaining this crisis, but actually helped contribute to it by its deluded analyses of finance and money.
I wrote Debunking Economics eight years ago to explain why Neoclassical economics was inherently flawed and should be abandoned. In that book I was merely collating the many compelling critiques that have been developed by economists of this theory over the years, that this school of thought has blithely ignored (I unexpectedly added one of my own, critiquing the theory of the firm, and also discussed flaws in conventional Marxian economics, but that’s by the bye here).
Even so, I never expected that the real world would throw up as dramatic a proof of the damage that a poor theory can do to reality as this financial crisis (the GFC, to give it its current popular moniker). That leading economists had no inkling of this crisis before it struck, and the panicked confusion amongst neoclassically-trained policy makers once it took hold, were good signs to the public that the alleged economic experts didn’t understand the economy. Anatole Kaletsky has recently “got” that, and others doubtless will as the crisis rolls on.
But that hasn’t stopped neoclassical economists from touting how great their theory is, nor from making pronouncements that indicate they still really don’t get it.
One such contribution from a leading neoclassical theorist was brought to my attention via a link to this blog: Brad DeLong’s attack on a Marxist’s analysis of the crisis. In a post entitled Department of “Huh?”: In Praise of Neoclassical Economics, DeLong mounts an abusive attack on David Harvey’s post Why the U.S. Stimulus Package is Bound To Fail.
Harvey’s own post was hardly complimentary about neoclassical economics–and I’m not going into the merits of his critique here either–but I didn’t notice Harvey referring to the work of any neoclassical as “pointless intellectual masturbation”, as DeLong obliquely called Harvey’s post.
The intriguing aspect of DeLong’s post was the appeal he made to what is known as the IS-LM model of macroeconomics in his attempt to refute Harvey’s critique. DeLong states:
“And it is at this point that we draw on neoclassical economics to save us–specifically, John Hicks (1937), “Mr. Keynes and the Classics,” the fons et origo of the neoclassical synthesis…”
This is ironic to anyone who has read Hicks in detail (as I have), because about thirty years ago, Hicks rejected the IS-LM model as a totally inappropriate tool for analysing a capitalist economy. Writing in the non-orthodox Journal of Post Keynesian Economics, Hicks stated that:
“The IS-LM diagram, which is widely, though not universally, accepted as a convenient synopsis of Keynesian theory, is a thing for which I cannot deny that I have some responsibility.” (Hicks, J.R., 1980. “IS-LM: an explanation”, Journal of Post Keynesian Economics, Vol. 3, pp. 139-54)
He then went on to make a number of points against the model he built, which included that it was inappropriate unless we lived in a world in which the future was certain, because to derive the model he assumed that expectations of the future remained constant and were correct. He then derived what he called the LL curve (and which later neoclassicals relabelled the LM curve), in which the demand for money was a function of both the need to pay for transactions and … uncertainty about the future. As Hicks put it,
“for the purpose of generating an LM curve, which is to represent liquidity preference, it will not do without amendment. For there is no sense in liquidity, unless expectations are uncertain.”
The model also presumed that all markets were in equilibrium–something that an older and wiser Hicks realised was utterly inappropriate when applied to the real world. His final statement on this was damning:
“I accordingly conclude that the only way in which IS-LM analysis usefully survives–as anything more than a classroom gadget, to be superseded, later on, by something better–is in application to a particular kind of causal analysis, where the use of equilibrium methods, even a drastic use of equilibrium methods, is not inappropriate…
When one turns to questions of policy, looking towards the future instead of the past, the use of equilibrium methods is still more suspect. For one cannot prescribe policy without considering at least the possibility that policy may be changed. There can be no change of policy if everything is to go on as expected–if the economy is to remain in what (however approximately) may be regarded as its existing equilibrium.”
A point I made repeatedly in Debunking Economics–because I had no choice but to–was that when faced with compelling critiques of their theory, neoclassical economists responded by ignoring them. Often, this would follow the pattern of someone who, in his youth, had played a key role in formulating neoclassical dogma, but in later life recanted to some degree–and Hicks here is a perfect example. The “Young Turks” of the discipline would stick with the original idea, and–if they were even aware of the later recantation at all–would dismiss it as the ravings of a senile old man.
Brad DeLong gives me yet another instance of that.
All this wouldn’t matter if DeLong had no influence–just as neoclassical economics wouldn’t really matter if all it did was befuddle students’ brains. But DeLong has influence, as his profile indicates:
“Brad DeLong is a professor in the Department of Economics at U.C. Berkeley; chair of the Berkeley International and Area Studies Political Economy major; a research associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research; and a visiting scholar at the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco. From 1993 to 1995 he worked for the U.S. Treasury as a deputy assistant secretary for economic policy…”
And neoclassical economics has shaped the institutions of the modern world, the practice of finance markets, and the setting of government policy. While it is still in charge of setting policy, this crisis will go on, and on. Only when policy makers start showing practitioners of this dogma the door (to the retirement home) will a real attack on the causes of the crisis be possible.
On a more trivial note, Australia’s market economists are demonstrating their continuing ignorance of the private debt bubble, and how it caused the crisis, by their advice that banks should reduce mortgage payments when they cut interest rates (for non-Australian readers, variable interest rate home loans dominate here, but when a rate cut occurs, the banks leave it up to borrowers to alter their current $ payments. So a rate cut from, say, 6% to 5% on a $100,000 25 year mortgage results in no change in the payments the borrower is making unless the borrower elects to reduce them. As a result, the term of the mortgage effectively drops when the rate is cut, while the payments on the mortgage remain constant).
Jessica Irvine reports in today’s Sydney Morning Herald that
“MORTGAGE holders are taking advantage of lower interest rates to pay off their loans faster, rather than pocketing the savings upfront. This has prompted some economists to call for automatic reductions to monthly loan repayments to help better stimulate the economy.” (Interest rate cuts going to our loans, not pockets).
Saul Eslake is reported as making the following sensible comment:
“If people are able to keep their mortgage repayments up as interest rates decline, then they’re saving themselves tens of thousands over the life of the loan,” he said. However, “that does magnify the increase in saving that occurs when interest rates fall, that’s true”.
However my Kosciuszko mate Rory Robertson seems to be saying that we would be economically better off if banks changed their practice so that payments were cut when rates were reduced, because this would increase spending (and Nicholas Gruen apparently made a similar observation):
An interest rate strategist at Macquarie Bank, Rory Robertson, said interest rate cuts would “pack more of a punch” if banks had to automatically reduce repayments.
“If the Reserve Bank is cutting by 4 basis points and no one’s taking the option of lower loan repayments, it means that the policy is not particularly effective in putting cash in people’s pockets. I would have thought that was the point of the exercise. Just as you squeeze budget constraints by rate hikes, you remove budget constraints by rate cuts. If the money’s burning a hole in pockets, you have got a better chance of it being spent.”
Nicholas Gruen, the chief executive of mortgage broker Peach Home Loans and the economic consultancy Lateral Economics, said that while in the longer term it was better if people paid down debts, in the short term it was better if they spent the money.
“It’s pretty unfortunate that some of this is happening from inertia, not because anybody particularly wants it to happen,” he said.
Ahem. We got into this crisis by reckless debt-financed spending (on both assets and consumer durables); at its peak, the increase in debt (at A$259 billion in 2007) provided almost 20% of aggregate demand in the economy. Deleveraging from this level of debt is inevitable and painful, but delaying it is hardly an alternative. Just look at Japan–still in Depression 18 years after its debt-financed speculative Bubble Economy burst.



Hi BTB – I fully support what justhinking had to say. Please continue to share your views with us.
Thanks.
Don’t mention the debt
The Latest installment by Michael West
http://business.smh.com.au/business/dont-mention-the-debt-20090219-8c6e.html
Outback Oracle, someone is hearing you
BTB,
Not so long ago 95% of the worlds economists thought everything was running just fine.
Were they right?
Keep up your informative posts.
Thanks
Yes indeed, and just after I read Robert Gottliebsen telling me our banking system was sound.
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/An-oasis-of-calm-$pd20090219-PDVYR?OpenDocument&src=sph
Maybe someone should email the article to him!!
Hi BTB,
I fully agree with those who posted above, PLS do not refrain from posting your opinions on gold or anything else. As you say- time will tell.
What I should have said is that I will stop harping on about my gold views. Purely for the reason that too many opinions put traders in two minds. This is not healthy and can lead to doubts and poor decisions.
To trade successfully you need to have a plan. A point you intend to get out. One should have an upside point and a downside point (stop) and stick to it.
Good luck.
Try and shut me up. I like this site.
By the way. Great to hear from you Ken. In my mind you are one of the pioneers of posting on this site. I haven’t heard from you for a while.
Thanks Uberbear for posting the Michael West article.
Michael is one of the good guys.
btb,
It’s great to have two sides of the arguement.
Gold and gold stocks have had a great run since November last year.
Hearing your point of view confirms my own.
Any traders on here would have their own strategies for getting in and out of a position.
But hearing two sides of any debate definitely makes for a healthier arguement.
Thanks
Hi Steve,was never interested in finance until this crisis, see you on 7 30 report last year and been following you ever since,love reading the comments from all, I never had much money never needed much,allways got by no worries,have a home 2 great children great partner and car and of course computers 2 off and addicted to internet, I am a very young 61 this year, lived most of my life in the bush Gulf Country Burketown to Cloncurry area and over the border NT,Been back close to the coast, Herberton southern end of Atherton Tablelands FNQ,my 2 cents worth is maby we should have some form of sustainable captialism, I would also like to say thanks for being there Steve and cheers to all readers.
For more background on some of BTBs views google Elliot Wave International and consider subscribing to the Elliot Wave Theorist, the Financial Forecast and the Short Term Update for 59USD/mth. Very interesting reading.
The services are based on elliot waves but are supported by a range of market based information such as volume, time, sentiment indicators, put/call ratios, measures of overall market value compared over the last ~100 years such as S&P price/book value (y axis)and bond yield/stock yield (x axis) etc
Prechter is a massive deflation fiend too.
Another excellent article by Michael West, he for quite sometime has been courageous enough to write about “inconvenient truths”. I am sure we will hear more about the Current Account in future. Good to see Steve get a mention also.
An interesting video on the automatic earth today about the effects of inevitable debt deflation on standard of living and GDP. It is after the Ilargy post under “Worst is yet to come”
http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/2009/02/february-18-2009-long-term-pervertion.html
Check it out.
Basically one of the messages that Steve has been saying for a long time.
What’s going on with Banco De Chile?
A conservative bank in Chile, none of the subprime problems of the US, no reaction on the stock price to the latest developments in US banking shares.
It’s just trending higher and higher after the November low.
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=BCH#symbol=BCH;range=my
I think these are signs of decoupling and inflation.
Here is the relevant comparison:
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=BCH#chart2:symbol=bch;range=my;compare=bni;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=cross;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined
Does the buck stop here? Is this where inflation starts to tick up?
hi btb
we seem to have 2 bull markets at the moment dont we- the US dollar and gold. you are right in that holding gold isnt a very rational position to take, the problem is we are not dealing with rational market sentiment at the moment. blind panic and fear is driving the dollar and gold. so if we are driven by fear to hold part of our assetts in gold what news is out there in the near future thats going to change our view of the world. not much!
i supect if we monitor the price of gold over the last littler while and into the future it will tend to mimick the general volatility in markets, because know one knows what they are doing and what the future looks like , and that especially includes market analysts.
obviously the bull run on the US dollar is driven partly by the hapless chinese who are stuck between a rock and a hard place . when you have a multi trillion dollar stake in a dodgy customer(the US)
hi mightyctas and euberbaer and all
thanks for posting the michael west article-
yes , run for the hills if that current account starts shrinking. i always thought we shouldnt be dropping interest rates to heavilly, so that we have a healthy differential between us and the rest so we can keep attracting capital. there are pros and cons offcourse.
what do others think
BTB – As you correctly state trading to a plan is essential for success and a stop loss and a profit exit point are musts. I use a trend-following strategy for trade entry and have found trailing stops to be better than target stops when the trade is in profitable territory. I’d be interested to know if that has been your experience too?
By the way, I completely agree with your view on the gold trend in the near and medium term.
And like so many other comments, let me add that I too enjoy and learn from your postings.
Mahaish,
I have felt for a while that our RBA can’t just lower rates like Europe and the US. At 3.25% more than the US we seem to be OK for the moment. Our currency has held up better than I expected. Also, much of our foreign debt used to be denominated in $US. I’m not sure what the case is today.
Hi Otto,
Trailing stops are great when the trend is mature. I have found trailing stops less helpful early on in a trade. Quite often a price will move counter trend harder at the beginning of a trend. Just my experience.
Hi Mr. Keen.
Mike (Mish) Shedlock has a post titled “Fiat World Mathematical Model” where he talks about your Roving Cavaliers of Credit.
The link is
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/02/fiat-world-mathematical-model.html
He would also like you to get in touch with him. Thanks
Thanks “Get Rid of the Fed” (I agree with the proposition in your nickname, by the way–given how the Fed has made this crisis much worse than the Great Depression, we need a financial system in which such an organisation, if it exists, lacks the power to do what the Fed has done in the lead up to this crisis),
I’ve read the article, and as you probably expect there are parts of the argument I disagree with, but I’m sympathetic to some components of it as well.
I’d be pleased to get in touch with Mish. If you know his email address, please pass it on to me via my email. I will copy this message to you via your email to facilitate that.
Cheers, Steve
Mr. Keen, I replied to your email with Mish’s email address. Let me know if you got it.
Hi Steve & All.
The Fed is only doing what they are paid to do, like wise GS,MS,PPT & elected officials. R.D.Bradshaw spells this out in his Goldsmiths essays. http://www.analysis-news.com/allfolder/Archives-Goldsmiths.htm
I have a book on order from Amazon, ‘The Bilderberg Group’ it is yet to be released. This is also about the Plutocrats. http://www.amazon.com/True-Story-Bilderberg-Group/dp/0979988624/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235077177&sr=1-
It is supposed to be released in March, can’t wait to read it.
So we get rid of one weed and another two will grow in it’s place. I’m not sure what the answer is as money & power will always corrupt those that crave it.
Cheers CK.
Hello again Mr. Keen. I have a question about the money supply in the U.S. If I am remembering correctly from the fed’s flow of funds and the St. Louis Fed’s FRED at about the middle of 2008, total debt was about 50 trillion, and CURRCIR was about 880 billion. Assuming those numbers are correct and an interest rate of 2.5% (which seems low), I get this. 50,000 billion (50 trillion) times .025 equals 1,250 billion. Intuitively, it seems to me there is something wrong when CURRCIR is LESS THAN TOTAL INTEREST PAYMENTS. Any thoughts (Mr. Keen & everyone else)???
So far my adventure in stocks have made me around a 10 % blow. I think it’s getting really ugly now, below the lows earlier this year, and down today, even the dollar weakened against mot European currencies, government bonds weakened, gold held steady. It’s kind of strange. Makes you wonder where the money went today. Some stocks went up, mostly the solid american blue ships
“Is bill gates crazy ?
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2009/02/19/is-bill-gates-crazy.aspx
Interesting article.
My main losses have been on oil related stocks and american bank shares, while the gains are on fertilizer stocks, they are doing good, about the only thing going up today.
I am really getting more into the view that the dotcom was a P/E bubble, and this is an earnings bubble, and that makes typical value investors forget that the whole economy is in a bubble where the fundamentals don’t count. I don’t know, it’s scary, and getting scarier. Makes you wonder if guys like buffet are for real or if they really have just been riding a bubble after all. But an interesting question is the trust issue, banks that don’t want to lend if they don’t think they will get it back. I think that might apply to nations, such as the US as a whole, as to who will lend them and for how long. They were never a debtor like today before the great depression. That’s really the difference, and I’m really curious to how that might change the story.
The graph here where you see the money supply similarity to the era leading up to the great depression is interesting,http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/02/fiat-world-mathematical-model.html
I think the federal reserve could sacrifice the dollar for the sake of the world. But I doubt they will do that willingly. However in that article
Prudentsaver,
Check out;
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This outfit has some very good work done on leading US indicators. The free data thay have goes back many decades.It is on excel and can be manipulated, graphed etc.
No meaningful recovery from an economic downturn has occurred without these Leading Indicators first identifying it. Until such time as these indicators (at LEAST 2 quarters) in the US look like recovering, I’ll be staying away from shares.
To me , this is a valuable resource.